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    Re: Term limits for Congressmen and Senators

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    About anyone that makes it to the national scene can become very wealthy if so inclined.
    Of course. Octomom can become wealthy because of her status on the 'national scene.'


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    Re: Term limits for Congressmen and Senators

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Do I think that Bill Clinton, minus all public office, could have earned more with just his law degree than the tens of millions he earns now? Of course not, as he's a significant outlier.

    Do I think that Bill Clinton, fresh out of Yale Law and with a Rhodes under his belt, could have earned more working at a law firm than he did as Arkansas AG and Governor (and probably as President)? Definitely.

    People do not go into public service to get rich. For the vast majority of people, choosing to go into public service means foregoing a more lucrative career in the private sector.
    And how many millionaires are in Congress?

    One thing is certain....the politicos ain't poor!

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    Re: Term limits for Congressmen and Senators

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    Of course. Octomom can become wealthy because of her status on the 'national scene.'

    I wouldn't know as I don't keep up with those kinds of stories and 'sides, I thought the thread was about politicians, specifically Congress people and Senators.


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    Re: Term limits for Congressmen and Senators

    Why would you want to take away the will of the people to elect the person that they want?
    If a Congressman or Senator is doing a poor job, it is up to the people that he/she represents to "term them out".
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    Re: Term limits for Congressmen and Senators

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    You don't really expect people to turn away from American Idol, Dancing with the Stars, etc, etc. and actually doing something to inform themselves do you?Unfortunately, no.

    Back to you vision. Would a person be able to go door-to-door to try to convince others they should vote for the candidate he/she supported?This is the Latter Day Saints domain, also for vacuum cleaner salesmen..

    If that is OK, how about if a person is disabled and not able to get out. Could they have someone else do the door-to-door thing for them? Could they pay their expenses for them? If a man is disabled, why would he run for office or be that vacuum cleaner salesman ??

    I'm sure you see where this is going. Assuming you think a person should be able to advocate for a candidate, at what point does it become bad.


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    Primarily, I favor shortening the campaigning time....down to 60 days before the election; also one hour of TV time to make their points and present their agenda.....
    The candidate can go door to door if he wishes.......but, I think this is ineffective....
    Right now we have a economic mess....

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    Re: Term limits for Congressmen and Senators

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    You realize that working for government is not even remotely an "indulgence," right?

    95% of elected federal officials, ranging from the most measly congressman to Obama himself, could earn twice as much outside of government as they do in it.
    So why do they do it? A desire to serve or a lust for power or some of both?

    I am undecided on the idea of term limits. Ideally, bums would be voted out of office. Realistically, that doesn't seem to happen, however, and I think there's definitely power inherent in incumbency that makes voting them out difficult.
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    Re: Term limits for Congressmen and Senators

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    Unfortunately, 95% of that 95% earn more because of the 'revolving door' from federal service to lobbyist, lecturer, or by service on corporate boards or university faculties, where their primary function is to secure lucrative government funding. Others parlay their government connections into media careers... TV pundit being a frequent example.

    So yes... being a former official, or former adviser to a former official, can be quite lucrative. Much the same way that being a former pro-athlete can be lucrative because of the many doors that sports stardom can open.

    Whether this says anything about their inherent talents or abilities to 'create profit' in the traditional business sense is something else entirely.
    This is all completely true, though I don't think it necessarily applies to everyone. Most political officials don't get big book deals or lobbyist gigs after they retire, and many could have made (or did make) millions before they ran for their first position.

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    I think many, if not most, get into it thinking they can make a difference. Once in office though, they become addicted to the power. About anyone that makes it to the national scene can become very wealthy if so inclined.
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    I would agree with this.

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    And how many millionaires are in Congress?

    One thing is certain....the politicos ain't poor!
    How many millionaires in Congress became millionaires on their government salaries? I'd wager not that many.

    If "the politicos ain't poor," that's because the vast majority of them were rich on their own.

    Quote Originally Posted by don'ttreadonme View Post
    So why do they do it? A desire to serve or a lust for power or some of both?
    In my limited experience, it's a combination of being convinced that they will be the best person for their constituents, the desire to have influence over a lot of people, and the novelty of it all.
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    Re: Term limits for Congressmen and Senators

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    In my limited experience, it's a combination of being convinced that they will be the best person for their constituents, the desire to have influence over a lot of people, and the novelty of it all.
    The bolded bit on its own is reason enough to enact term limits.

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    Re: Term limits for Congressmen and Senators

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    The bolded bit on its own is reason enough to enact term limits.
    How exactly would that keep that kind of person from having influence? All term limits would do is ensure that one of those people would be replaced with another with slightly increased frequency.
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    Re: Term limits for Congressmen and Senators

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Primarily, I favor shortening the campaigning time....down to 60 days before the election;
    Exactly how do you propose doing that? Would it be illegal to talk about a candidate or election prior to 60 days out.


    also one hour of TV time to make their points and present their agenda.....
    Yeah, wouldn't want to preempt Dancing with the Stars or American Idol more than once in four years.

    One hour to hear from those that would rule over you. Sounds like a great idea.


    The candidate can go door to door if he wishes.......but, I think this is ineffective....
    Sorry for not making it clear but I was referring to someone other that the candidate going door-to-door trying to gin up support for the candidate.


    Right now we have a economic mess....
    Right now it's raining. What does this have to do with term limits?

    Limiting political speech does sound like a great way to try to inform the dumbmasses.


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