View Poll Results: Gay marriage; where do you fall?

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  • I support gay marriage as a Federal mandated "right"

    24 39.34%
  • I support GM on a state to state basis IF decided by the citizens or passed by its Legislature

    14 22.95%
  • I support State Courts dictating to the legistlature that gay marriage is a right

    7 11.48%
  • I believe a Constitutional Amendment should be passed baning gay marriage

    19 31.15%
  • I do not believe Gay Marriage should ever be a right

    24 39.34%
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Thread: Gay marriage

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    Re: Gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    It most certainly is. It is a concern of all society,
    Society is not the same thing as government however.

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    Re: Gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrein View Post

    You think forcing them is by law is going to make them unalienated? And why is it disorderly to be alienated?
    You don't really understand this do you. We're not always talking about naked force, we are talking of things like recognising marriages, treating couples, familes, communities, worplaces etc as a irreducible in some contexts, supporting the authority of associations and their leaders in some contexts and so on.



    Well they probably, as the name would suggest, do not like society. How is forcing someone who doesn't like society to go into society going to help anything? Why can't they just be?
    Yes of course teenage binge drinking and behaviour problems resulting from it is because they "don't like society". Anti-social behaviour is usually some sort ofm Situationist style protest..oh wait..it isn't.

    Much of this behaviour is because social support and constraints are lacking or out of touch not because they are there.



    The government can't cure anomie, try as it might. Creating some militarized social complex will do nothing but raise suicide levels and cause more civil strife, more shooting sprees, more murder, etc.
    I have no idea what you are talking about? I said nothing about creating a militarised social complex. I'm not sure you even understand what I'm saying.




    What can the government do to stabilize a family?
    not encroach on its functions, maintain the necessary ideational framework to support it, give it s necessary autonomy, to some degree treat it as irreducible, help maintain a degree of authority for it and its leaders.


    And by support you really mean, force and manipulation?
    Certainly there is a degree of force as a last resort but authority here means such as the authority of the parent, guiding, restraining, supporting and only when necessary does it require any kind of coercion. The parent helps to raise the child, to educate it, to teach it about the world and society, to set it up on its way in the world. This means the parents requires the use of force in occassionally, if the child is doing something dangerous such as the young kid who is punished for running across a busy road. To remove social authority is simply to broaden the necessary powers and role of the state in society.
    Last edited by Wessexman; 04-18-09 at 12:34 AM.
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    Re: Gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrein View Post
    Society is not the same thing as government however.
    Of course not. The gov't and its functions are just one of the many associations that make up a healthy society.
    "It is written in the eternal constitution that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." - Edmund Burke

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