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Thread: Are marriage licenses good or bad?

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    Re: Are marriage licenses good or bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Actually more, lets not forget about their children...
    Assuming they have any, which is in no way a certainty, and ignoring the fact that you don't have to be married to have children and many people who have children are not.

    Since it is a contract, it deals with rights and responsibilities and property transferal, etc. That includes any children that might come into the mix.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Are marriage licenses good or bad?

    I don't believe that the government has any place. The "perks" which come with marriage, mostly contract and legal sorts of things can be done separate and people then can name specific people to do specific things. There's no reason why your immediate family should have say over things you don't think they should. Hospital visitation and all that can be done on separate contract. Marriage can return from whence it came, to the Churches. Let them deal with the problem.
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    Re: Are marriage licenses good or bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't believe that the government has any place. The "perks" which come with marriage, mostly contract and legal sorts of things can be done separate and people then can name specific people to do specific things. There's no reason why your immediate family should have say over things you don't think they should. Hospital visitation and all that can be done on separate contract. Marriage can return from whence it came, to the Churches. Let them deal with the problem.
    Oh man I bet greedy lawyers would just love that.

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    Re: Are marriage licenses good or bad?

    I had a long ass post written out last night and submitted it just about the time the forum went down for maintenance. So, I lost the whole post. I really don't feel like typing it all up again, so in the timeless words of Inigo Montoya:

    "Let me 'splain.... No, there is too much. Let me sum up."

    Signing a piece of paper doesn't make people stay in a relationship they don't want to be in. Regardless of the reasons. The very fact that well over half of marriages end in divorce is a testament to that. If marriage was the be all, end all for a relationship, if it magically made people stay together, then signing that piece of paper would magically transform people's relationships in such a manner that no one would ever divorce. Obviously, this is not the case. It offers nothing but tax breaks, that's it. Everything else that is supposedly "good" about marriage can be taken care of outside of marriage. (property issues, raising children, financial issues, etc)

    Marriage should be returned back to the religious. Let each group set their own arbitrary "rules" for it and leave the government out of it. It has nothing to offer to anyone who doesn't do it for religious reasons.

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    Re: Are marriage licenses good or bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Should the government be issuing marriage licenses to anyone?
    What purpose is served by government regulating the institution of marriage?
    Marriage is a creature of the state.
    As such, state involvement is inherently necessary.

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    Re: Are marriage licenses good or bad?

    "Let me 'splain.... No, there is too much. Let me sum up."



    Gotta love someone who quotes Inigo Montoya.

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    Re: Are marriage licenses good or bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't believe that the government has any place. The "perks" which come with marriage, mostly contract and legal sorts of things can be done separate and people then can name specific people to do specific things. There's no reason why your immediate family should have say over things you don't think they should. Hospital visitation and all that can be done on separate contract. Marriage can return from whence it came, to the Churches. Let them deal with the problem.
    The whole point is that marriage is a one-stop-shop for all of these contracts, you get married, you automatically get all of that without having to fill out lots of paperwork. It's a matter of convenience and it works just fine.

    Screw the churches, they can take their ideas of marriage and stick 'em where the sun don't shine.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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