View Poll Results: What is an acceptable reason for government regulation

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  • To protect against any and all harm

    7 26.92%
  • To ensure equal and fair outcomes

    6 23.08%
  • To prevent unjust enrichment

    7 26.92%
  • To set boundaries of individual conduct

    8 30.77%
  • To prudently conserve public resources

    11 42.31%
  • To provide orderly protections of individual rights

    25 96.15%
  • To maintain social order

    11 42.31%
  • To maintain social justice

    10 38.46%
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Thread: What is an acceptable reason for government regulation?

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    Re: What is an acceptable reason for government regulation?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    On any given social topic, how much government involvement should there be?
    No more than necessary....But, man has a nasty tendency to be greedy causing government regulations.
    Government has a tendency to over-do things , to be over-zealous, to forget that they are the public servent....
    Much of regulation should have a review date , followed by an expiration date.

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    Re: What is an acceptable reason for government regulation?

    To set boundaries of individual conduct
    To prudently conserve public resources
    To provide orderly protections of individual rights
    To maintain social order
    To maintain social justice
    Government has a legitimate and necessary role in all of these things.

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    Re: What is an acceptable reason for government regulation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Government has a legitimate and necessary role in all of these things.
    Ok...and how do we determine if that legitimate and necessary role has been met and/or exceeded? How much government is too much government?

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    Re: What is an acceptable reason for government regulation?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Oh, I can make a very strong case for "harm" from that. Dysentery and cholera alone are potent points in that argument.
    Fine. Let me modify the scenario so that it's still plausible but takes care of the health code problem... I'm at a crowded public fair and decide to defecate in the sanitary port-o-potty... may I leave the door open at my option while I sit there and do my business? Or does that also pose a health threat to the public?


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    Re: What is an acceptable reason for government regulation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    Fine. Let me modify the scenario so that it's still plausible but takes care of the health code problem... I'm at a crowded public fair and decide to defecate in the sanitary port-o-potty... may I leave the door open at my option while I sit there and do my business? Or does that also pose a health threat to the public?
    No, that doesn't pose a health threat (unless you have some highly toxic flatulence).

    But...is said public fair in fact in "public" or is it on private property--in which case the rules of whomever is running the fair would predominate no matter what.

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    Re: What is an acceptable reason for government regulation?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Ok...and how do we determine if that legitimate and necessary role has been met and/or exceeded? How much government is too much government?
    To me, it is a matter of efficiency. As long as the law benefits society more than the cost-- or the mere imposition-- harms society, I consider it acceptable. It's not a matter of "too much government" or "too little government," it's good government and bad government.

    That's why I left off the top three poll responses. It isn't that the government doesn't have the authority to try to accomplish those things, it's that those things are inherently undesirable and thus trying to accomplish them is bad government.

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    Re: What is an acceptable reason for government regulation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    To me, it is a matter of efficiency. As long as the law benefits society more than the cost-- or the mere imposition-- harms society, I consider it acceptable. It's not a matter of "too much government" or "too little government," it's good government and bad government.
    But doesn't that just punt the question back to "who decides"--as in "who decides what 'benefits' society?"

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    Re: What is an acceptable reason for government regulation?

    Yes, but that's our job as citizens. Of course, if we were better citizens, we would actually pay attention to the hard data concerning various policies... but we're idiots and we swallow whatever our favorite brand of politicians tell us and ignore what the other brand says.

    You can just about literally run straight down a list of hot-button issues and using available data determine exactly which policies are beneficial and which aren't. The only ones you really can't do this with are ones where other moral concerns might outweigh statistics, such as gay marriage and abortion, and military/foreign policy issues where the data is nonexistent.

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    Re: What is an acceptable reason for government regulation?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post

    And what is a "flourishing" society?
    One with strong intermediate associations, individual liberties and general long term sustainability and health in my book.
    "It is written in the eternal constitution that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." - Edmund Burke

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    Re: What is an acceptable reason for government regulation?

    I'm surprised that only two people voted for "To prevent unjust enrichment" which is essentially laws to protect against fraud based activities.
    "If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him." - Sun Tzu

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