View Poll Results: What is an acceptable reason for government regulation

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  • To protect against any and all harm

    7 26.92%
  • To ensure equal and fair outcomes

    6 23.08%
  • To prevent unjust enrichment

    7 26.92%
  • To set boundaries of individual conduct

    8 30.77%
  • To prudently conserve public resources

    11 42.31%
  • To provide orderly protections of individual rights

    25 96.15%
  • To maintain social order

    11 42.31%
  • To maintain social justice

    10 38.46%
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Thread: What is an acceptable reason for government regulation?

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    Re: What is an acceptable reason for government regulation?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    On any given social topic, how much government involvement should there be?
    It sounds like you're approaching this issue from what is generally referred to as 'negative liberty.'

    The concept of negative liberty has several noteworthy aspects. First, negative liberty defines a realm or "zone" of freedom (in the "silence of law"). In Berlin's words, "liberty in the negative sense involves an answer to the question 'What is the area within which the subject -- a person or group of persons -- is or should be left to do or be what he is able to do or be, without interference by other persons."
    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty]Liberty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]



    I don't know how best to answer because the question is so broad. I suppose the simplest answer is that in most forms of democracy the people will decide with their votes. When government becomes overly intrusive, we will vote the ******** out.


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    Re: What is an acceptable reason for government regulation?

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    What I find justifiable is a travesty to others and vice versa.

    In the area of governance, justification is quite grey.....and irrelevant.
    Ok....why?

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    Re: What is an acceptable reason for government regulation?

    Simply put, only to protect individual rights. In a nutshell, basic public health regulations are good, companies should not be allowed to sell products harmful to the public by defect knowingly, fraud should be regulated, as well as predatory business practices as these all infringe upon the rights of those affected. Other than that, regulation is overbearing, burdensome, unnecessary, and completely out of the realm of acceptable governmnent intervention.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: What is an acceptable reason for government regulation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    It sounds like you're approaching this issue from what is generally referred to as 'negative liberty.'
    Pretty much. How would you approach the issue? Negative liberty or some other basis?

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    Re: What is an acceptable reason for government regulation?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Pretty much. How would you approach the issue? Negative liberty or some other basis?
    Honestly, I hadn't even heard of 'negative liberty' until I started considering your question. The poll did cause me to think about liberty and freedom which is why I checked the definitions.


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    Re: What is an acceptable reason for government regulation?

    Only such regulation, that is absolutely necessary and vital to such a degree that the vast (super-)majority agree it must be done. I would go further and say all such regulations should be reviewed by an independent body and tested for necessity, involving a vital intrest to nearly all the people, that it is actually of benefit and effective and efficient, and that the regulation's repeal would do substantial harm to many.

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    Re: What is an acceptable reason for government regulation?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Simply put, only to protect individual rights. In a nutshell, basic public health regulations are good, companies should not be allowed to sell products harmful to the public by defect knowingly, fraud should be regulated, as well as predatory business practices as these all infringe upon the rights of those affected. Other than that, regulation is overbearing, burdensome, unnecessary, and completely out of the realm of acceptable governmnent intervention.
    So basically it is not acceptable to criminalize public nudity at any level of government? Towns can't elect to be "dry"?

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    Re: What is an acceptable reason for government regulation?

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    So basically it is not acceptable to criminalize public nudity at any level of government? Towns can't elect to be "dry"?
    Negative, towns can determine their own laws to that extent, I could care less about that as an issue, also, I see no reason to criminalize public nudity as it doesn't provably cause harm to anyone and certainly doesn't pose an immediate danger to anyone, but again, location location location. I thought we were discussing federal regulation here, not locals. There are things that local/state governments should be prohibited from regulating such as bill of rights protections and the like, but I don't advocate that "no regulation" should exist.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: What is an acceptable reason for government regulation?

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    In a society where you are guaranteed the right to freely move, the restriction I would place on community government is it must be desired by the majority and the minority can escape the regulations by voting with their feet (have time to move to escape regulation)
    Why should someone vacate their home just because 50%+1 of his neighbors have decided that he's not paying enough taxes to fund their public swimming pool?

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    Re: What is an acceptable reason for government regulation?

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    So basically it is not acceptable to criminalize public nudity at any level of government? Towns can't elect to be "dry"?
    I would say no, it is not acceptable, unless a clear and demonstrable harm can be shown by mere nudity.

    Where there is no harm, there should be no law.

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