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    Re: Are we an arrogant country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    The U.S. has nearly twice the GDP of any other nation on earth and ranks among the top in per capita income. The U.S. has the most powerful military on earth. The U.S. is the single most powerful political player in world affairs. The U.S. is widely seen around the globe (despite protestations to the contrary) as a free and prosperous nation to which economically or politically oppressed people flock. The U.S. has been and continues to be a global leader in technology, manufacturing, invention, and culture.

    When you're by far the biggest, wealthiest, and most powerful guy on the block, it's inevitable that many of your neighbors, friendly or unfriendly, will come to resent you. No matter how nice a face you put on or how humble your rhetoric. Human nature and all that.


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    Re: Are we an arrogant country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    It shows our weakness and our ignorance when we defend outright our "belief" that we are not arrogant. This seems very proud of us, proud in a negative way of course. Failure to admit mistakes and such makes us more headstrong.
    Your "lecture" would serve better as itself an example of arrogance, rather than a jeremiad against it.

    Refuting the assertion we are arrogant as a people is only a mistake if the assertion is held to be true. I refute the assertion because I hold it to be false. I refute the assertion because the putative facts put forward in defense of the assertion are specious, subjective, slanted, and oftentimes outright lies.

    I refute the assertion because it is not arrogance to advocate tirelessly for one's own values. The Euro-apologists who snidely suggest America should be more like Europe are doing no less than this, and if they are not arrogant in trumpeting the supremacy of their way, we are not arrogant for trumpeting the supremacy of our way. In truth, neither is arrogant (although the Euro-apologists are wrong in their advocacy, but that is a different topic).

    "Arrogance", judging from your "lecture", seems to be daring to disagree with your assessments, that your judgment is preternaturally correct.

    Be that as it may, my judgment is that your "lecture" is hypocritical hogwash--and asininely arrogant.

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    Re: Are we an arrogant country?

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    We're a very confident people, as we should be.

    Obama can go **** himself, he's an arrogant punk.
    Maybe he meant white America, because that's who use to run things. Now he's running things and he won't be so arrogant cause he's better and more nuanced. You have to remember that racism is very important to black liberals.
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    Re: Are we an arrogant country?

    What is arrogance?


    Is there a difference between pride?

    How specifically are we "Arrogant"?


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    Re: Are we an arrogant country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    What is arrogance?


    Is there a difference between pride?

    How specifically are we "Arrogant"?
    We take actions in this world, that's what they mean. But most of our actions are expected. Notice any time there's a crisis, first thing other countries do is to see what will the US do. Oh you're the world superpower, you have to take care of this or that. But then they criticize us when we don't do it like they want. That's when we're arrogant. They want their free cake and eat it too.
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    Re: Are we an arrogant country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    What is arrogance?


    Is there a difference between pride?

    How specifically are we "Arrogant"?
    It isn't being better that makes us arrogant. It's that we constantly toot our own horn. It's the difference between Walter Payton (pbuh) and Curtis Enis. When Payton scored, he acted with class and like he had been there before. Enis would strike poses even if they were down by 3 touchdowns still. Confidence does not mean arrogance. Arrogance is telling everyone how you are better and constantly reminding them what you know to be true. It's obnoxious and boorish.
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    Re: Are we an arrogant country?

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    It isn't being better that makes us arrogant. It's that we constantly toot our own horn. It's the difference between Walter Payton (pbuh) and Curtis Enis. When Payton scored, he acted with class and like he had been there before. Enis would strike poses even if they were down by 3 touchdowns still. Confidence does not mean arrogance. Arrogance is telling everyone how you are better and constantly reminding them what you know to be true. It's obnoxious and boorish.
    Terrell Owens, now there is one arrogant SOB.

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    Re: Are we an arrogant country?

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    It isn't being better that makes us arrogant. It's that we constantly toot our own horn. It's the difference between Walter Payton (pbuh) and Curtis Enis. When Payton scored, he acted with class and like he had been there before. Enis would strike poses even if they were down by 3 touchdowns still. Confidence does not mean arrogance. Arrogance is telling everyone how you are better and constantly reminding them what you know to be true. It's obnoxious and boorish.
    How do we constantly toot our horn? Examples please.
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    Re: Are we an arrogant country?

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    It isn't being better that makes us arrogant. It's that we constantly toot our own horn. It's the difference between Walter Payton (pbuh) and Curtis Enis. When Payton scored, he acted with class and like he had been there before. Enis would strike poses even if they were down by 3 touchdowns still. Confidence does not mean arrogance. Arrogance is telling everyone how you are better and constantly reminding them what you know to be true. It's obnoxious and boorish.


    Please quote and link to us "tooting our own horn"...


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    Re: Are we an arrogant country?

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    It isn't being better that makes us arrogant. It's that we constantly toot our own horn. It's the difference between Walter Payton (pbuh) and Curtis Enis. When Payton scored, he acted with class and like he had been there before. Enis would strike poses even if they were down by 3 touchdowns still. Confidence does not mean arrogance. Arrogance is telling everyone how you are better and constantly reminding them what you know to be true. It's obnoxious and boorish.
    There's truth to this, and I agree to the point, however I don't see any "chest thumping" from us as a nation in general, what I see is that we do the things that need to be done and justify them when others who "Monday morning quarterback" add their two cents after the fact. From my perspective Europe has been the more arrogant, they talk about what needs to be done, but wait for us to act, then criticize, they have the nerve to disagree with our domestic policy even though it has no effect on them across the vast oceanic expanse, these are things that I attribute to "chest thumping" when down at the wire.
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