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    Re: Are we an arrogant country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    His presidency is not over, so you cannot say what will happen is true.
    Of course I cannot; it is pure speculation on my part based on the REALITIES of how his Liberal policies will bankrupt this nation and expose us to possible threats from our enemies.

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    Re: Are we an arrogant country?

    We are too great of a country to be arrogant!
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    Re: Are we an arrogant country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    You cannot back up this false assertion with any facts. It is merely a "Liberal" perception which has been reinforced by a campaign of ignorance led by the New York Times against a President they never liked and thought stole the election from their man in 2000.

    Really? Liberal perception, is it?? The fact that George Bush was more of a pawn than a strategist, is beside the point.
    BBC NEWS | Middle East | Toxic world fallout from Iraq invasion
    The diplomatic fallout

    As for America's standing around the world, the war alienated some major American allies, France and Germany most notably. Others did send troops after the invasion - Spain and Italy among them - but then left as public opinions at home turned hostile.


    On the other hand, a number of smaller countries, many of them from the former Soviet block, saw an opportunity to show their loyalty to the US and sent contingents - the Czech Republic, Poland, Georgia and others. For them, a strong and active United States bodes well for their future security.

    In turn, Britain's support for the United States has led to further divisions within Europe. These had an impact in the Lisbon treaty talks about a future foreign policy for the EU, strengthening the British determination to keep it firmly in the hands of individual governments.

    The invasion of Iraq also caused alarm bells to ring in Russia. There, a new mood of hostility to the West has developed and the Russians have become wary of American power.

    Nor has Iraq sparked the democratic revolution in the Middle East that Mr Bush hoped for. And the Israeli/Palestinian conflict remains unresolved.

    Ironically it is Iran, with which the US shares a mutual hostility, that has emerged with greater strength, to the concern of the Gulf Arab states.

    The fallout continues.
    The Magazine of Future Warfare
    ......Bremer also alienated Iraqis as he "privatized" Iraq's national industries, although "piratized" is a more accurate term. Iraqi industries were given away to American corporations, with American oil companies first in line. Bremer also awarded numerous "no bid" contracts to insider companies like Dick Cheney's Halliburton. The waste and corruption was so bad that the US Army Comptroller recently testified before Congress that it was the worst he had seen in his career. The plunder was so blatant that there is no accounting for billions of dollars in hundred dollar bills that were flown in by the planeload and disappeared.

    The fact that it(the Iraq War) was unjustified, illegal according to international laws and treaties, opposed by the UN, opposed by most US allies, bad for the war on terror, and disastrous for the Iraqi people, American taxpayer, America's image, and devastating to hundreds of thousands of American soldiers and their families are minor concerns.



    Last time I looked, Iran told Obama to pound sand.

    Last time I looked, North Korea told Obama to pound sand.

    Are you living in the same world I live in?

    Please. Other than 'saber-rattling" at Iran and totally ignoring the threat that N.Korea represented, Bush was "out to lunch".....all talk and no action.

    In regards to Obama:
    Obama Reaches Out to Iran, Looks for Engagement - First 100 Days of Presidency - Politics FOXNews.com

    Obama Condemns N. Korea Missile Launch, Vows to Pursue Missile Defense in Europe - First 100 Days of Presidency - Politics FOXNews.com

    More than what Bush did.



    Okay let me be sure I understand this; you think HIGH opinion polls are an indicator of leadership?

    No, they are reflections of Americans view of leadership

    Did you know that Congressional Democrats have lower polling numbers than Bush did? What does that tell you?

    Tells me that the Democrats in Congress have yet to step up to the plate, in the fashion of Obama....but Congressional Republicans are viewed even more negatively. What does that tell you?


    How high do you think those numbers will be this time next year? I can give you a guess; not much higher than Bush's and they may even go below Bush's numbers by the end of his first term.

    Anything can happen....and likely, "will". Nothing is guaranteed. But I predict, that Obama will not be at his "wit's end", unlike Bush, and will respond to challenges, "presidentially".

    But again, the thing I liked about Bush is that he was a leader and didn't make decision by sticking a finger into the wind and trying to figure out what was easy an popular.

    Bush was the opposite of a leader, who inspired only those in the base of his own party. Everyone knows, or suspects that Cheney was the puller of Bush's strings, as he possesses the intellect of a rock.

    Obama doesn't either, he just happens to be clueless of the disaster his policies are going to be.
    Wishful thinking on your part. Rather than predicting the future...why not be patient, and cognizant?

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    Re: Are we an arrogant country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Obama on his US World Apology tour, recently stated that we are an arrogant country.

    Questions:

    Are we?

    What do you think of Obama's statements?
    Yes absolutely we are. We're not just arrogant, we're ignorant and proud of it.
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    Re: Are we an arrogant country?

    Yes, America is, IMO, very arrogant.

    I'm frankly surprised our "high and mighty" aka "holier than thou" attitude as a nation hasn't found us knee-deep in invasions by other countries who would just love to shut us up and knock us down a peg or two.

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    Re: Are we an arrogant country?

    Quote Originally Posted by kjyoung View Post
    Yes, America is, IMO, very arrogant.

    I'm frankly surprised our "high and mighty" aka "holier than thou" attitude as a nation hasn't found us knee-deep in invasions by other countries who would just love to shut us up and knock us down a peg or two.

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    Uh, that is precisely what 9/11 was about. Payback for our blind support of Israel, our indifference concerning the Palestinians, and our sexual exploits with Saudi Arabia (i.e. The Saudi Royal Family)(which by the way is where the majority of the hijackers hailed from...1+1=2

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    Re: Are we an arrogant country?

    Quote Originally Posted by aaronssongs View Post
    Uh, that is precisely what 9/11 was about. Payback for our blind support of Israel, our indifference concerning the Palestinians, and our sexual exploits with Saudi Arabia (i.e. The Saudi Royal Family)(which by the way is where the majority of the hijackers hailed from...1+1=2
    I agree, I just consider that 1 instance. I was thinking more along the lines of a constantly flow of invasions, not a random one here and there.

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    Re: Are we an arrogant country?

    Quote Originally Posted by kjyoung View Post
    I agree, I just consider that 1 instance. I was thinking more along the lines of a constantly flow of invasions, not a random one here and there.

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    Give it time. The barbarians are at the gate. Remember, the rest of the world is weak. They've depended upon American Military Might to keep the global peace and have instead invested their money in social programs. However, at the same time, many nations are finding it difficult to create children. So they are importing large numbers of immigrants. In Europe, they are importing them from Muslim countries. In the United States, we are importing them from Latin Countries.

    Considering that Europe and the United States have so embraced Multiculturalism that we no longer have a culture, strong cultural influences are moving in and reshaping our societies. Europe and America will simply change. There will be no great war. We will be defeated peacefully, just as the Northern European Heathens were peacefully converted to Catholicism, so too will we be converted to Socialism and Islam. The question I am curious to see answered, is how the Communists and Islamists will deal with each other.

    With the capitalists out of the way, there will be no meaningful production of wealth. There will be a war of ideology. The Atheistic Communists and the ultra-Theistic Islamists cannot co-exist. Who will strike first?
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    Re: Are we an arrogant country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Of course I cannot; it is pure speculation on my part based on the REALITIES of how his Liberal policies will bankrupt this nation and expose us to possible threats from our enemies.
    This made me spit my soda out!
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    Re: Are we an arrogant country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Should we also apologize for Liberating Europe? How about apologize for Liberating Asia? Better yet, let's apologize for being the world's police because the UN has become a feckless waste of time and the Europeans have had their heads so deeply imbedded in the ass of thugs like Saddam that they cannot extricate their heads from it.

    While we Americans are at it, let's also apologize for the Liberation of Kuwait; after all, if we had just left that mess alone, the world would be a much better place, 9-11 would never have occurred and we wouldn't be trying to promote Democracy in Afghanistan and Iraq; they could still be despotic regimes that treat their neighbors and citizens like crap.

    I think we also need to apologize to the Indonesian people whom we desperately tried to help after the Tsunami.

    Maybe we should also apologize for the Imperialist Europeans for creating the mess we have in the Middle East because we didn't get involved soon enough to prevent their attempts to subjugate the world to their imperialistic ambitions seeing that they are too HUMBLE to do it for themselves.

    I just love a good bash America thread don't you?
    Here is where it gets deep. Are we still talking about the liberation of Europe? Were you in the D Day invasion? That was a long time ago. You can't live on an old glory that long. It seems to me that Russia had something to do with that liberation as well. There were a few other countries as well involved in that. We have caused our fair share of world chaos now as well.

    Did we not invade a sovereign nation in Iraq? We have manipulated South American economies. We have assassinated world leaders. We are just the gemstones in the global picture. We are an arrogant nation of the first order and need to step down for the glories of the 1940's.
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