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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    So there is no biological reason for gay sex.
    Yes exactly, I'm saying we should not inform students about gay sex in a manner of biology, but in a manner of safe-sex and separate sex-ed.

    It should still be discussed.

    I think someone above me said something about anal sex. Its not really talked about in biology, but anal sex as well as AIDS is discussed in sex-ed classes.
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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Id teach reproduction and sex related risks from a biological perspective.
    I would then explain how differant contraception technologies adresses these issues, going into great detail as to their limitations and risks.
    The idea that anal sex cant result in pregnancy, but can result in infection would be adressed. Same for Oral. And then maybe a brief "and the same applies for homosexual as heterosexual relations here. In fact gay men have amongst the highest sexual infection rates in the country". U could cover this all in a completely values free manner (other than the idea that unsafe sex and promiscuity can be dangerous and often results in pregnancy, and that these are risks students should be made aware of and informed with strategies to avoid). Obviously, explain the fact abstinance is the safest road. But dont let this get in the way of explaining things kids would benifit from knowing.

    I think ideas about homophobia and gay rights are probably better discussed in a social studies than a sex education environment. But I dont see why it should be swept under the rug just because people find it abhorant. It is a fact of the world. Many people are gay, and this should be discussed. And discussing it, and advocating tolerance for the actions of others that do not effect you is not the same as encouraging or condoning the bahviour.

    If I were a social studies teacher a point I would try tog et across to my students is "think what you like about the actions of others, but if they do not negatively impact you or others, try to temper this judgement with tolerance and treat people with respect, regardless fo what you think of their lifestyle choices". This is a message id really try to drum into students across the board. The idea of tolerance and respect for harmless diversity (as oposed to diversity that creates victims).
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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    I only agree with the biological standpoint up to a point. In all the sex ed classes I ever took, the introductory material refers to attraction between a man and woman. When I was 12, the first sex class I had was with a teacher who said, "You will begin feeling attractions to the opposite sex." This approach needs to change. There were even students in class who asked questions like, "How do gay people have sex?" or, "Is feeling attracted to the same sex a bad thing?" These kinds of questions were always treated awkwardly, or simply avoided.

    The point of sex ed is to not only teach safety but to ease the transition into adolescent sexuality. If only one demographic is mentioned then whole other groups present in the class will have no foundation for understanding themselves; furthermore, they will have to seek that understanding in the outside world for themselves, sometimes from less than savoury sources.

    I don't necessarily favour a discussion on gay sex, but addressing same-sex attraction is important.

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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    I only agree with the biological standpoint up to a point. In all the sex ed classes I ever took, the introductory material refers to attraction between a man and woman. When I was 12, the first sex class I had was with a teacher who said, "You will begin feeling attractions to the opposite sex." This approach needs to change. There were even students in class who asked questions like, "How do gay people have sex?" or, "Is feeling attracted to the same sex a bad thing?" These kinds of questions were always treated awkwardly, or simply avoided.
    Yes, very good point. I remember a lot of my classmates having the same questions in middle school and such, however the teacher never cared.

    I would suspect that if a kid talks about "I am attracted to a person of my own gender," then its considered a problem then and there and they are counseled. However, if the same kid says "I am attracted to a person of the opposite sex," then of course, they are given a long lecture and 'taught' rather than counseled.

    Or atleast that's how it used to be ... in my Texas middle school.

    It does need to change.


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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    I've taught sex ed, before. In my view the following needs to be part of any sex ed. curriculum:

    1) Anatomy of the sexes.
    2) Biology involved in inpregnation
    3) STD's
    4) Birth control
    5) Pregnancy and STD prevention
    6) Relationships

    Gay sex was not part of what I presented...but then again, neither was heterosexual sex. The only reason I presented penis-vagina intercourse was in the context of pregnancy. When discussing STDs, all types of sex, vaginal, anal, and oral were discussed, but not in the context of whether they regards homo- or heterosexual sex, since this point is irrelevant.

    Sometimes point #6 would bring up discussions of straight or gay relationships. If it did, I would foster a discussion based on what was presented.

    So, the answer to the question is both yes and no. The presentation of the types of sex should be presented in the proper context, but the labeling of gay or straight sex is inaccurate, since both types of pairings can perform almost any of the types of sex identified. Gay relationships could be discussed under the auspices of relationships in general.
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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    The pro-gay sex agenda doesn't want it to end there. They want it presented as normal and acceptable, not just some generic discussion. Otherwise they wouldn't be fighting so hard to get it in schools. Because no sex ed course in the country teaches that gay sex is bad and evil. It's just like CC described it, generic. It probably says little or nothing at all about it. When I had it in the early 70's I don't remember any discussion of it.
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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    The pro-gay sex agenda doesn't want it to end there. They want it presented as normal and acceptable, not just some generic discussion. Otherwise they wouldn't be fighting so hard to get it in schools. Because no sex ed course in the country teaches that gay sex is bad and evil. It's just like CC described it, generic. It probably says little or nothing at all about it. When I had it in the early 70's I don't remember any discussion of it.
    The slippery slope falacy is not a good one here. Just because an extreme example COULD happen or is something people WANT to happen doesn't mean it automatically WILL happen nor does it mean that something else shouldn't happen just because it has a slight chance of leading to it.
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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    6) Relationships
    Relationships being not an academic subject, they should never be "taught" in the public school system.

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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Relationships being not an academic subject, they should never be "taught" in the public school system.
    But they are. How sex is carried out and relationship related things work where all taught to me during my sex education.
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