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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    I love this line of reasoning... because this is where many anti-gay folks get stuck in their arguments. They often resort to the claim that 'morality' should be left up to the parents, not the teachers. Which begs the question... if sexual morality is off-limits for teachers, are other moral issues off-limits as well? Lets say lying or stealing or violent behavior, for instance. Should teachers remain neutral on these issues?
    Strictly speaking....yes, they should remain neutral.

    Schools have codes and standards of conduct for students, and above that there are the usual laws against stealing and smacking the idiot next to you for the unpardonable sin of existing. Teachers should enforce those standards of conduct, but do so without moralizing about it. Morality is the parents' lesson to teach.

    For example, I told my boys to disregard anything the school said about fighting. My rule to them was simple: Don't ever start a fight, but make damn sure you finish it. I most assuredly would have objected strenuously to any teacher attempting to instruct them otherwise on the matter.

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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Strictly speaking....yes, they should remain neutral.

    Schools have codes and standards of conduct for students, and above that there are the usual laws against stealing and smacking the idiot next to you for the unpardonable sin of existing. Teachers should enforce those standards of conduct, but do so without moralizing about it. Morality is the parents' lesson to teach.

    For example, I told my boys to disregard anything the school said about fighting. My rule to them was simple: Don't ever start a fight, but make damn sure you finish it. I most assuredly would have objected strenuously to any teacher attempting to instruct them otherwise on the matter.
    So it's your belief that teachers have no role in teaching students the difference between 'right' and 'wrong?' How about kid's TV? Should cartoons and Nickelodeon be morally neutral as well? No values?


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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    So it's your belief that teachers have no role in teaching students the difference between 'right' and 'wrong?' How about kid's TV? Should cartoons and Nickelodeon be morally neutral as well? No values?

    They should be taught right and wrong in regards to lawful things. Stealing is not allowed, so you shouldn't steal. Its up to the parents to explain and instill in their children WHY they shouldn't steal morally other than just the law of it.

    In regards to kids show and nickelodeon, they're free to do either. Last I checked, it is not mandatory for kids to watch television while it is mandatory kids go to some kind of schooling. Last I checked, my tax dollars aren't going to Nickelodean to produce kids shows, they are going to schools.

    You're trying to compare apples to oranges and doing a poor job of it.
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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    They should be taught right and wrong in regards to lawful things. Stealing is not allowed, so you shouldn't steal. Its up to the parents to explain and instill in their children WHY they shouldn't steal morally other than just the law of it.
    So you agree with CelticLord that the public school system should be valueless?


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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Schools teach sex-ed as a matter of two different things, as I see it: biology and safety.

    I would suppose the primary point is of teaching this is to answer the question "Where to babies come from?" and explain the biology.

    I would say that if gay sex education were brought to schools, then it should remain on the safety side, since it does not have much to do with the above question.

    However, I still voted yes.


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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    Schools teach sex-ed as a matter of two different things, as I see it: biology and safety.

    I would suppose the primary point is of teaching this is to answer the question "Where to babies come from?" and explain the biology.

    I would say that if gay sex education were brought to schools, then it should remain on the safety side, since it does not have much to do with the above question.

    However, I still voted yes.
    So there is no biological reason for gay sex.
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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    There's no biological reason for Anal or Oral sex either, but should we not inform teenagers that just because its not "sexual intercourse" in the traditional sense that it still comes along with health risks?
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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by New World Order View Post
    Absolutely not. Certainly it would help teach safety but there is far greater damage to children whom are subjected to this in class as if this was normal behaviour. No matter what anyone says whether professional or not, it is a mental illness that should be treated. What's next we teach safe human-animal sex to hillbillies in the Ozarks? This can be learned in private classes outside any tax paying program.
    Yes I certainly agree it is a type of mental illness...

    It just happens to be more widespread and therefore overlooked in this respect

    Because this is a much more common type of illness it is quite possible that there is bias within the medical science industry being reluctant to define it like it is. The researchers may be gay themselves or have close friends that are gay. This creates the bias atmosphere to reluctanty call it what it is purely out of the reluctancy to hurt peoples feelings.
    Last edited by creativedreams; 04-08-09 at 09:30 PM.

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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    So it's your belief that teachers have no role in teaching students the difference between 'right' and 'wrong?' How about kid's TV? Should cartoons and Nickelodeon be morally neutral as well? No values?
    Might as well be. A kid's TV should be kept in the "off" setting.

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