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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Regardless, i think its vital that gay students should recieve some kind of education and information about gay sex, how its carried out and again, how to keep safe. Sex ed. isnt just about how to use a condom. It teaches you how to have sex, creativedreams its a big shame you wasnt listening in that lesson my virgin friend.
    Wow. I disagree STRONGLY. It is NOT the school, and thus the STATE'S, place to be teaching children or even teenagers "how its carried out". No, simply no. Parents if they want to discuss it, can discuss it. Kids talking with each other can discuss it. They may end up learning whenever they attempt it.

    But it is not the schools duty to teach them HOW to have sex, nor should they. They shouldn't be teaching them "you can aslo stimulate a man to orgasm by using your tongue in this way" or "these are the 5 most commonly used sexual positions" or anything else about how its "carried out".

    Sexual Education should focus on the health aspects of it. I think APS and Celticlord this out of the park. You don't specifically go into details about homosexual sex, but you talk about how to go about safe sex. Safe sex remains the same be it between two of the same sex or two of different sex.

    I do not mind homosexuality being mentioned in sexual education, but I do not believe it should be focused on greatly nor presented as an equally common thing as heterosexuality because its not, and your numbers you posted even back that up. It shouldn't be shown as something that is "wrong", but we should not be imparting to our students that its just as common to find someone that's gay as it is someone straight and you should just explore and figure out what you are because the fact is the majority of people ARE straight. While I sympathize with the view that homosexuals can become confused because they feel they can't express themselves, and its why I don't mind health classes making mention of homosexuality and not painting it as a negative thing, I think it would be even more unfair to institutionalize confusion upon the majority by causing straight children that would previously never give it a second thought to be wondering "Am I gay? Should I be gay? Is this something I should 'try' to see if it appeals to me".

    But, more to the point of response, sexual education should focus primarily on the health and biological aspects. If it does that, it'll be applicable across the board.

    In regards to the perosn that's putting out mildly trolling points that are barely relevant to the subject and is just meant to get people heated....ignore him. Only reason he's still posting in the thread and spewing his ignorant annoying stereotypical dribble is because people are responding to it and feeding into it.
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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    In vitro fertilization. Men and women do not need to have sex to keep the human race alive anymore.
    Maybe, but without sex, who'd want to?

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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Regardless, i think its vital that gay students should recieve some kind of education and information about gay sex, how its carried out and again, how to keep safe. Sex ed. isnt just about how to use a condom. It teaches you how to have sex, creativedreams its a big shame you wasnt listening in that lesson my virgin friend.
    It bloody well better not be teaching that.

    Schools should not be teaching sexual technique, merely sexual safety. As a matter of public health, education about the full range of transmission vectors for STDs and the potential for pregnancy serves a distinct public good. "How to have sex" does not.

    (Besides, isn't that what porn is for?)

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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    It bloody well better not be teaching that.

    Schools should not be teaching sexual technique, merely sexual safety. As a matter of public health, education about the full range of transmission vectors for STDs and the potential for pregnancy serves a distinct public good. "How to have sex" does not.

    (Besides, isn't that what porn is for?)
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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    Maybe I am a flaw in human nature but I am not going to get all defensive about it and demand people speak of me in politically correct ways

    ironic for you.... stating I am uneducated makes you the epidomy of ignorance
    Perhaps i havent made myself clear. Im not the one who thinks homosexuality can be spread like friggin SARS. You cant just wave a wand to make people straight either. Perhaps you should learn to accept such people in our society instead of urging the state to "change them". Dont go all muslim on my ass.
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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    It bloody well better not be teaching that.

    Schools should not be teaching sexual technique, merely sexual safety. As a matter of public health, education about the full range of transmission vectors for STDs and the potential for pregnancy serves a distinct public good. "How to have sex" does not.

    (Besides, isn't that what porn is for?)
    I remember watching a video in year 6 (whatever grade that is in the US) about sex education, and it had two computerized models having sex. First he got an erection and then he inserted it into her vagina. He then made back and fourth motions and it showed him ejaculating and then we saw inside the virgina and the workings of the sperm. I dont mean the teachers literally taught us, like brought the headmistress into class one day and told her to bend down or anything :P
    It was quiet an educational video too.
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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    It is not the job of a school to teach morals.

    Normally, I would agree, apparently, moral values are no longer being taught, anywhere.......
    The very idea that any perversion be taught in a school......when students are "graduating" without being able to read and write...
    Twenty plus years ago, it was wrong to persecute a homosexual , now things seem to be completely out of balance..
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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Perhaps i havent made myself clear. Im not the one who thinks homosexuality can be spread like friggin SARS. You cant just wave a wand to make people straight either. Perhaps you should learn to accept such people in our society instead of urging the state to "change them". Dont go all muslim on my ass.
    I have absolutely nothing against gays or lessies.

    I just feel that the medical science industry has not correctly defined it and catagorized it for what it truely is and stems from...

    It is not too far removed from a human having a relationship with a dog...

    Man+man or man+dog
    both of these scenarios are completely unnatural

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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    I just feel that the medical science industry has not correctly defined it and catagorized it for what it truely is and stems from...
    This hasnt been scientifically prooven...stop throwing things out there expecting me to buy it.

    Man+man or man+dog
    both of these scenarios are completely unnatural
    This ignorant statement right here makes me question your actual stance on homosexuals despite your false claim they you have "nothing against them".
    The fact you just compared a gay relationship to a man having a relationship with a dog is sickening, and clearly shows a huge lack of understanding on your part.
    Ever since there where straights there where gays, if your claim is true that homosexuality is genetic-related, then theres nothing unnatur(e)al about it.
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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Normally, I would agree, apparently, moral values are no longer being taught, anywhere.......
    The very idea that any perversion be taught in a school......when students are "graduating" without being able to read and write...
    Twenty plus years ago, it was wrong to persecute a homosexual , now things seem to be completely out of balance..
    Not quite sure which side you're landing on....

    First, let's be clear about something: homosexuality is not a perversion, nor are homosexual acts. Gay sex is not perverse sex.

    Second, the only place morals should ever be taught is in the home, from parent to child. Any other source of moral instruction is indoctrination, and is automatically morally suspect on that basis.

    Third, even if morals are not being taught in any home, that still would not justify teaching any form of morality in any public school. Government is not an arbiter of morals, and can never be an arbiter of morals; the very nature of government precludes this.

    Sex education in schools is justifiable only on the basis of public health and public safety. Any form of sex education which goes beyond preventing the spread of STDs, the mechanics of contraception, as well as the nature of sexual assault, is overstepping its bounds. Any form of sex education which defines a sex act as "perverse" is teaching morality, and is significantly overstepping its bounds.

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