View Poll Results: Should gay sex be added to the sex education curriculum?

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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    At least you're allowing for the acknowledgment of homosexuals in a classroom discussion. I'm open to discussion about what type of information could or should be explained regarding sexual orientation. I think in a sex ed class the very minimum that should be taught is that there is such a thing as sexual orientation and that some minority of the population identifies as homosexual or bisexual. To refuse to acknowledge those basic facts is absurd.

    I never said they should not be talked about. I've simply stated it should be kept to a minimum and the majority should be talked about not actively focusing on the relationship itself as much as the act. That it should not be made out to be something that is bad or evil but also not shown as something completely normal on par with the amount of straight people and that something every child should consider or experiment with to see if they feel that way.
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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Wrong.

    The root cause of danger there is crossing the street, with the variable being how often the car is there.
    How often the car is there is not just the variable. It's the key variable. To ignore that variable would be nonsensical.

    And the key variable in the danger of anal sex is how often the HIV virus is there. We know where the HIV virus is found most often. The virus is found on certain 'roads' much more often than other 'roads.' To ignore that would be nonsensical.



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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I never said they should not be talked about. I've simply stated it should be kept to a minimum and the majority should be talked about not actively focusing on the relationship itself as much as the act. That it should not be made out to be something that is bad or evil but also not shown as something completely normal on par with the amount of straight people and that something every child should consider or experiment with to see if they feel that way.
    I have absolutely no problem with that position.


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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    If you don't mention any sexual orientation, how is it "let's teach this subject but not this"? Neither is "taught."
    Wait, you're confusing me. Are you for or against making it part of education?


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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    Wait, you're confusing me. Are you for or against making it part of education?
    The argument that poster was making is that sexual orientation should be kept 'hush hush.' Undisclosed, unmentionable, in the closet.

    Out of sight, out of mind.

    Apparently the idea of sexual orientation is too controversial, or too sensitive, or simply too advanced a concept for high school students to tackle. Either that, or if sexual orientation is mentioned, they'll all want to run right home and experiment with it for themselves.

    We're left guessing since most of these posters don't feel any need to explain their reasons for keeping sexual orientation off limits in the classroom.

    This whole thread reminds me of those wonderful 1950s TV shows where the mother and father always slept in separate twin beds. If you ignore something, it doesn't exist, right?


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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    No, that in fact was NOT what I was saying, but it's what you kept trying to maneuver me into saying. I just didn't play ball. Too bad.

    So, here's the question, just so we're all on the same page . . .

    In the context of this poll question, what does "teaching gay sex" mean, and how does it differ from what sex ed classes are at present?

    Be specific. Because I see a lot of people proceeding from very different assumptions as to what it means.
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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    No, that in fact was NOT what I was saying, but it's what you kept trying to maneuver me into saying. I just didn't play ball. Too bad.

    So, here's the question, just so we're all on the same page . . .

    In the context of this poll question, what does "teaching gay sex" mean, and how does it differ from what sex ed classes are at present?

    Be specific. Because I see a lot of people proceeding from very different assumptions as to what it means.
    Quite frankly, I never responded to the poll question because I didn't think it made sense. My participation in this thread wasn't based on the premise that the poll question made sense. I chose to discuss this issue with you in particular because you strike me as a poster who tends to make sense. Unlike some others whose posts tend to wander around in circles.

    My questions to you had nothing to do with teaching 'gay sex.' My question to you was and still is the following:

    Do you believe that sexual orientation or homosexuality should ever be discussed in the public school classroom? If so, in what context? If not, why not?

    That question does not 'maneuver' you into any position. It forces you into no box. You are free to answer in any way you see fit. We might even find some common ground for agreement. I don't know at this point. Because you've yet to answer that question.


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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Good grief.

    Why is it that the two of you are the only ones who are having any problem understanding what I've said, especially when so many others have said the exact same thing?

    HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE CLEAR TO YOU NOW:


    CAN YOU DEFINE HOMOSEXUALITY CLINICALLY?

    YES.

    DID I SAY THAT THERE IS NO PROBLEM WITH TEACHING CLINICAL DEFINITIONS IN A SCIENCE AND HEALTH COURSE?

    YES.

    DO YOU HAVE TO DEFINE ANY PARTICULAR SEX ACT AS HOMOSEXUAL OR HETEROSEXUAL?

    NO.

    CAN YOU COVER EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE COVERED WITHOUT CALLING ANY SEX ACT HETEROSEXUAL OR HOMOSEXUAL?

    YES.

    WOULD THERE BE ANY PURPOSE TO CALLING ANY PARTICULAR SEX ACT HETEROSEXUAL OR HOMOSEXUAL?

    IN A SCIENCE AND HEALTH COURSE, NO.

    DO YOU GET IT NOW?
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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    I would simply like to note that education does not equal "encouragement", as this poll seems to suggest.


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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    DO YOU GET IT NOW?
    Thanks for clarifying those points. I'd like to go back and compare that to an earlier post of yours in response to my question regarding teaching about masturbation. You responded as follows:

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    I suppose you could make some argument for a passing mention just to define the term, but not really. There's no risk in anyone exploring that on their own.
    Your answer there was quite specific... you said there was 'no risk' in anyone exploring masturbation. What did you mean by that?

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