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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    and if you had made it a simple yes/no poll i would not have objected.
    but you used qualifiers/descriptors, making neither answer acceptable because of the way you interjected your spin

    in the simple yes/no question, my answer is NO
    I will repeat, SexEd is about health/safety not a "how to"
    I don't understand why people opposed to this always assume that the ONLY way to teach about gay sex is the "how to." This is wrong.

    So I'm saying, don't make it a "how to," make it educational. I mean, schools don't make straight sex "how to" so why should teaching about gay sex be different in that sense?


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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    But your poll answer choices are extremes. There's quite a bit of ground in between them.

    You can have reasons for "yes" OR "no" which are completely different from the reasoning you supply. You can also have all sorts of shades of "maybe, if . . . "
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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    I don't understand why people opposed to this always assume that the ONLY way to teach about gay sex is the "how to." This is wrong.

    So I'm saying, don't make it a "how to," make it educational. I mean, schools don't make straight sex "how to" so why should teaching about gay sex be different in that sense?
    how to apply a condom does not change just because you are putting it in a va jay jay or a guys ass
    how to use the pill does not change just because you munch carpet or ride the baloney pony
    the type of STDs does not change just because of your sexual orientation

    gay, lesbian or straight has no bearing on what should be taught in sex ed
    health & safety
    point is they do not have to promote or discriminate against straights/gays/lesbians to teach sex ed

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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    how to apply a condom does not change just because you are putting it in a va jay jay or a guys ass
    how to use the pill does not change just because you munch carpet or ride the baloney pony
    the type of STDs does not change just because of your sexual orientation

    gay, lesbian or straight has no bearing on what should be taught in sex ed
    health & safety
    point is they do not have to promote or discriminate against straights/gays/lesbians to teach sex ed
    Ok, exactly, so let's NOT discriminate and go ahead and add it to education.


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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    gay, lesbian or straight has no bearing on what should be taught in sex ed health & safety
    This argument is disingenuous and it can be proved in a very simple way.

    If it's true that sexual orientation has 'no bearing' on the teaching of sex ed and health and safety, then there should be no objections to interchanging masculine and feminine pronouns in texts.

    For instance, the phrase,

    'The passive partner in anal sex should ensure that her partner uses a condom to prevent the risk of HIV/AIDS'

    could just as well read

    'The passive partner in anal sex should ensure that his partner uses a condom to prevent the risk of HIV/AIDS.'

    Since sexual orientation is irrelevant. Either should be acceptable.

    Any objections?


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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    Ok, exactly, so let's NOT discriminate and go ahead and add it to education.
    How is it "discrimination" if you don't mention either?
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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    This argument is disingenuous and it can be proved in a very simple way.

    If it's true that sexual orientation has 'no bearing' on the teaching of sex ed and health and safety, then there should be no objections to interchanging masculine and feminine pronouns in texts.

    For instance, the phrase,

    'The passive partner in anal sex should ensure that her partner uses a condom to prevent the risk of HIV/AIDS'

    could just as well read

    'The passive partner in anal sex should ensure that his partner uses a condom to prevent the risk of HIV/AIDS.'

    Since sexual orientation is irrelevant. Either should be acceptable.

    Any objections?

    That presumes such a detailed description is even necessary, which it isn't.

    But even if it were, a gender-neutral "their" covers all the bases and takes any relevance of orientation straight out of it.
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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    That presumes such a detailed description is even necessary, which it isn't.

    But even if it were, a gender-neutral "their" covers all the bases and takes any relevance of orientation straight out of it.
    The fact that you go to such great lengths to eliminate any reference to sexual orientation suggests that it does indeed matter to you very much.

    I asked you previously whether you thought it would be appropriate to discuss sexual orientation in any other class, such as civics. You did not respond. So I'll ask again... under what context could or should any public school teacher lead a discussion of homosexuality?


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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    This argument is disingenuous and it can be proved in a very simple way.

    If it's true that sexual orientation has 'no bearing' on the teaching of sex ed and health and safety, then there should be no objections to interchanging masculine and feminine pronouns in texts.

    For instance, the phrase,

    'The passive partner in anal sex should ensure that her partner uses a condom to prevent the risk of HIV/AIDS'

    could just as well read

    'The passive partner in anal sex should ensure that his partner uses a condom to prevent the risk of HIV/AIDS.'

    Since sexual orientation is irrelevant. Either should be acceptable.

    Any objections?

    What sex ed class are your children taking that describe how to perform anal sex?

    Sexual education classes are for the teaching of reproduction, biology, diseases, and contraceptives. How to use a condom doesn't change based on sexual position so describing the act isn't required in the explanation of why or how to utilize a condom.
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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    What sex ed class are your children taking that describe how to perform anal sex?

    Sexual education classes are for the teaching of reproduction, biology, diseases, and contraceptives. How to use a condom doesn't change based on sexual position so describing the act isn't required in the explanation of why or how to utilize a condom.
    Nothing in my post suggested a 'how to manual' for doing anything. There is simply no way that HIV/AIDS can reasonably be discussed in a sex ed class without mentioning that anal sex is the highest risk activity. If your goal is to reduce the risk of HIV/AIDS, then you either need to instruct the students to refrain from anal sex, or to use a condom during anal sex. If a student asks 'What is anal sex?', what would you have the teacher respond? Nothing? To simply ignore the issue altogether would be ridiculous.

    If issues such as this offend the sensibilities then you might as well do away with sex ed altogether.

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