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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I was actually just making a joke with my first post about trial and error. Forgot the darn smiley. My bad on that.

    But I will add that there is nothing on the planet that will "lead "to underage sex except being underage and wanting to have sex. What trial and error would lead to is a LOT more errors that result in babies and STD's.

    I'm in favor of sex ed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    I think almost everyone learns sex by trial and error.
    I suppose that's true.

    I have learned more about how to have sex from friends and more about safety/biology of sex from school.


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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    I do.
    You do? Thats it? Then i guess thats pretty insignificant.
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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    You do? Thats it? Then i guess thats pretty insignificant.
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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    No. Schools shouldn't educate on oral, anal, or any other variations of sexual methods other then the single normal method that results in reproduction.

    Now, what they can educate on is sexual emotions and attractions. They can acknowledge that being attracted to same-sex is as real as someone being attracted to the opposite-sex and that all resources about one can be sued for the other.

    Students shouldn't be taught by their teachers that their possible homosexual feelings are wrong, illegal, or an abomination.
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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    It's not inconsistent. And a number of others from across the political spectrum have said the same thing in this thread, and were heavily thanked by many others still.
    The number of times your posts are thanked is no measure of their consistency. At first you said you didn't "see how gay sex fits in at all." Then you said that "if there are to be clinical definitions of other forms of sex, then fine." I don't see how those two points are consistent. The second is clearly very different from the first. Unless, of course, you exclude gay sex from the clinical teaching of 'other forms of sex.'


    "Values" aren't science.
    Well of course they aren't. But I believe certain common values are necessary in the schools. Values such as courtesy, respect, integrity, patriotism, honesty, patience, and courage.

    Are you suggesting that the public schools should be 'value-free' zones?


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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    The number of times your posts are thanked is no measure of their consistency. At first you said you didn't "see how gay sex fits in at all." Then you said that "if there are to be clinical definitions of other forms of sex, then fine." I don't see how those two points are consistent. The second is clearly very different from the first. Unless, of course, you exclude gay sex from the clinical teaching of 'other forms of sex.'




    Well of course they aren't. But I believe certain common values are necessary in the schools. Values such as courtesy, respect, integrity, patriotism, honesty, patience, and courage.

    Are you suggesting that the public schools should be 'value-free' zones?

    Why patriotism at school?
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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    The number of times your posts are thanked is no measure of their consistency. At first you said you didn't "see how gay sex fits in at all." Then you said that "if there are to be clinical definitions of other forms of sex, then fine." I don't see how those two points are consistent. The second is clearly very different from the first. Unless, of course, you exclude gay sex from the clinical teaching of 'other forms of sex.'
    These two, with whom I often disagree, summed the whole thing up pretty well:

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/1057984728-post4.html

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/1057984728-post4.html

    And one can mention clinical things like "anal sex" and "oral sex" without mentioning sexual orientation of any kind, because it doesn't even matter. Gay, straight, 5-6 people at the same time -- the concept is still the same.



    Well of course they aren't. But I believe certain common values are necessary in the schools. Values such as courtesy, respect, integrity, patriotism, honesty, patience, and courage.

    Are you suggesting that the public schools should be 'value-free' zones?

    Ah. Going back to being clever and Socratic again. (Losing the "confused" smiley would make it far less obvious and you'd come across as far less condescending, by the way.)

    I said that sex ed should be a science and health course. No, "values" in the sense you're using them don't enter into it.

    I said nothing about what may or may not be appropriate for any other kind of class. (And, to save you from popping another emoticon into a post, no, I'm not going to go into them, either.)
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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    And one can mention clinical things like "anal sex" and "oral sex" without mentioning sexual orientation of any kind, because it doesn't even matter.
    So you're saying that sexual orientation should not be mentioned?

    Ah. Going back to being clever and Socratic again. (Losing the "confused" smiley would make it far less obvious and you'd come across as far less condescending, by the way.)
    The confused smiley is used because I find your posts confusing. It seems you keep trying to keep sexual orientation out of the curriculum. So let me ask you straight out to avoid further confusion....

    Do you believe that public schools should introduce the subject of sexual orientation and/or homosexuality at any time in a sexual ed class, or any other class, for that matter, some time before HS graduation? If so, in what context? If not, why not?

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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Why patriotism at school?
    I know some people find patriotism old-fashioned and out of style. Personally, I like the idea of the American flag flying in the public schools. And I like the idea of pictures of Washington, Lincoln and the current president hanging in the schools also (even if half of us can't stand whoever happens to be sitting in the White House at the moment.) I also think it's kind of neat for kids to learn about civics, community, and public service. And perhaps to recite the pledge of allegiance every so often. Just to remind them that they live in the greatest and freest country on earth.


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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    I know some people find patriotism old-fashioned and out of style. Personally, I like the idea of the American flag flying in the public schools.
    No your absolutely right. Patriotism, when not in its extreme, is a fantastic thing. Its patriotism that keeps countrymen together in hard times, and put men on the battlefield. Would your boys bother fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, if they had no patriotism for the US? Of course not. Its not old fashioned. Its a good thing. I was just trying to figure out what you meant by patriotism in school.

    I also think it's kind of neat for kids to learn about civics, community, and public service. And perhaps to recite the pledge of allegiance every so often. Just to remind them that they live in the greatest and freest country on earth.
    ...and national anthem. Anyway, thats reasonable
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