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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    ironic for you.... stating I am uneducated makes you the epidomy of ignorance
    I'm normally not a spelling Nazi, but that one has got to be the epitome of ironic self-pwnage.

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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Sex education in the schools should be limited in scope to the health aspects--i.e., transmission of STDs and the potential for pregnancy, when is it rape and not sex, et cetera. To the greatest extent possible, it should be value neutral. It is not the job of a school to teach morals.

    Sexual acts are not homosexual acts until and unless the sexual actors are both male or both female. Anal sex is not gay sex unless both are men. Oral sex is not gay sex unless both are male or both are female. The health and safety aspects which are the proper academic objectives of sex education derive from specific sexual acts, which can be discussed and taught from a gender-neutral perspective. The cliched sayings about condom use ("put it on before you put it in," "no glove, no love", "always wear a raincoat", "don't be silly, cover that willy") are equally applicable to male-female as well as male-male sexual contact.

    What does need to be a part of sex education is the range of sexual acts that can be dangerous. The great risk to today's youth is that many honestly believe that oral sex and anal sex are not "sex". Sex education should not be limited merely to safe practices for vaginal intercourse.

    Homosexuality itself should not be a part of sex education in the schools, simply because the emotional content of sexual relationships and the sublime psychology of one's sexuality are not academic lessons any school can ever be equipped to teach.
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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by cherokee View Post
    This thread should have died with this post...
    Only if you believe that 'emotional content' and 'sublime psychology' of sexual relationships have no place in the public schools... which was the conclusion of that post.

    Because that would require the elimination of Romeo and Juliet from HS English class, among most other classics.


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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    And I suppose the characterization of 'normal' or 'abnormal' would probably come up only if a student posed the question. I can imagine in a history or sociology class, for example, if the issue of Judaism came up, a student might pop in with 'My parents tell me that Jews are going to hell.' And I guess the proper response from the teacher would be to explain to the student that their personal religious beliefs should be left at home, since the Jewish kids in the class might take great offense to that kind of bigotry.
    You had me till the end, when you have the teacher telling the student that his parents religious views are bigotry.

    I think the more proper thing would be to say that religious beliefs are best kept outside of the classroom and that we're discussing judaism from a historical stand point, not in the context of other religions beliefs.
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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    You had me till the end, when you have the teacher telling the student that his parents religious views are bigotry.

    I think the more proper thing would be to say that religious beliefs are best kept outside of the classroom and that we're discussing judaism from a historical stand point, not in the context of other religions beliefs.
    I should have used better punctuation in that post, sorry. It should have read as follows:

    And I guess the proper response from the teacher would be to explain to the student that "their personal religious beliefs should be left at home", since the Jewish kids in the class might take great offense to that kind of bigotry.

    It's my own opinion that people who believe Jews are going to Hell are bigots. I agree that's probably not an opinion most would find politically correct.

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    1. stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own.

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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    Only if you believe that 'emotional content' and 'sublime psychology' of sexual relationships have no place in the public schools... which was the conclusion of that post.

    Because that would require the elimination of Romeo and Juliet from HS English class, among most other classics.

    Sex education wouldn't be needed in school if parents did their jobs at teaching their kids. yes?

    What does teaching protection have to do with romance stories?

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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    What EXACTLY are these specific "fun stuff" that is so different in regards to health and safety for gays than straights?

    I've never seen any study that says biologicaly gays are more prone to get AIDS than straight people. Perhaps you can fill me in?
    I have no idea, whenever I hear talk of gay sex I always hear about AIDS. I don't know much about it, I just assumed it was general knowledge.


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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by cherokee View Post
    Sex education wouldn't be needed in school if parents did their jobs at teaching their kids. yes?
    You could use the same argument for any subject... trigonometry, for instance, or Spanish. The fact of the matter is not all parents are able to teach sex education. In fact I'd be willing to bet that if you were to survey a representative sample of parents from across the U.S., a majority would not be able to accurately draw a diagram of a vagina, uterous, fallopian tubes and overies. No more than the majority could accurately place Nevada, Michigan, and Vermont on a map of the U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by cherokee View Post
    What does teaching protection have to do with romance stories?
    You've changed the context of my post. I responded directly to this quote by another poster:

    Homosexuality itself should not be a part of sex education in the schools, simply because the emotional content of sexual relationships and the sublime psychology of one's sexuality are not academic lessons any school can ever be equipped to teach.
    If the argument is that 'emotional content' and 'sublime psychology' are lessons no school can be equipped to teach, then we might as well do away with the study of Shakespeare and other great authors altogether. We don't read Shakespeare in school because it's entertaining... we read it to understand the beautiful structure and composition of the plays, as well as the incredible drama, tragedy and comedy. Drama, tragedy and comedy are all intensely sublime psychological experiences involving morality, values, good and evil. It might be true that most public schools are ill-equipped to teach these experiences. But I think most of us would agree that the best schools do teach them quite well.


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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    A few years ago i remember hearing an Ohio senator saying he believes gay sex should be added to the sex education curriculum, as it was unfair that straight sex was taught and how to have it safely, which on the contrary is a good point.
    Considering gays on this planet number to 1 out of every 10 people, i believe it would only be right to include gay sex in the sex education curriculum so that homosexual boys too can know how to have sex safetly. This is vital knowledge and is neccessary to keep that child from being misinformed in the future should he/she decide to have sex. Its very important we teach our kids how to keep it safe and vital for there health in the future as an adult, and its important this does not exclude anybody.

    Whats your ideas?
    Eventhough I have a yes or no answer, I can't vote because I don't agree with either reasoning givin in the poll.

    They included "gay" sex whenb I was in 8th grade, so if there's going to be a sex ed class at all then I don't see why "gay" sex should be excluded.

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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Eventhough I have a yes or no answer, I can't vote because I don't agree with either reasoning givin in the poll.

    They included "gay" sex whenb I was in 8th grade, so if there's going to be a sex ed class at all then I don't see why "gay" sex should be excluded.
    Well if you want it to be included surely you then realize its importance for the safety of homosexual teens? Otherwise there would be no possible reason to have it included if it served no logical purpose. Im not saying im for it, i havent voted. Just wondering.
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