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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Relationships being not an academic subject, they should never be "taught" in the public school system.
    Two things. Firstly, I did not teach sex ed in a public school system. Secondly, the discussion of relationships and how they influence sexuality needs some coverage as questions will abound.
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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    I didnt read all of the posts, but has anyone suggested the following?

    Teach Oral, and Anal safety.

    That covers both straight and gay sexual health and education. There's no need to be a prude when it comes to sex ed. If you don't teach it because you don't like it you may as well be spreading diseases yourself.
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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    Reading your description of how a classroom should operate I almost imagine a room full of robots... or zombies. "Insert peg A into slot B." Nothing more. No mention of love. No mention of commitment. No mention of the humanity of it all.

    No morals. No values.

    Odd.

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    Forgive me, I may be a bit... different? But what business does a school have "teaching" morals and values?

    School is for education. Values are instilled by parenting and social observation.
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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    You said schools shouldn't teach the "how," but you still think they should teach "how to engage in sexual acts without spreading or contracting disease."
    Of course. The topic isn't how to have good sex but how to have safe sex.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    What if students ask about gay sex? Do you just ignore it? That's not professional in an educational atmosphere. What if parents and others cannot teach the students about gay sex? Who does the student have to turn to? The school.
    Ok, let's try this one more time.

    Anal sex is not gay sex.
    Oral sex is not gay sex.
    Vaginal sex is not gay sex.
    Mutual masturbation is not gay sex.

    These acts are "gay" only when all the participants are of the same sex. These acts are "straight" only when both men and women are involved. The health and safety issues are the same regardless of the genders of the participants (except for matters of pregnancy, naturally). The health and safety issues are the only matters suitable for teaching in the public schools.

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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Of course. The topic isn't how to have good sex but how to have safe sex.
    You don't need to restate what you already stated.

    Ok, let's try this one more time.

    Anal sex is not gay sex.
    Oral sex is not gay sex.
    Vaginal sex is not gay sex.
    Mutual masturbation is not gay sex.
    Wow, that was pointless, I don't automatically think these are homosexual in nature.


    These acts are "gay" only when all the participants are of the same sex. These acts are "straight" only when both men and women are involved. The health and safety issues are the same regardless of the genders of the participants (except for matters of pregnancy, naturally). The health and safety issues are the only matters suitable for teaching in the public schools.
    Again, thanks for the unnecessary info about what constitutes as gay sex, but gay sex still fits into the health and safety categories because of AIDS and all that "fun stuff."

    So then I ask myself, are you FOR or AGAINST gay sex being taught about in schools?

    By typing this post you have only extended your assertion, yet you STILL have not yet answered my question.

    What if the students ask about gay sex in school, should the school ignore it?

    It almost seems as if you are responding to someone else's post but you accidentally quoted mine.


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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post

    Whats your ideas?
    I say no.It is the parents job to teach their children about those things. Besides Schools do not need to mention that a very minor insignificant part of the population are sexually attracted to the same sex to teach about stds,pregnancy and safe sex. As celticlord stated those things are not exclusive to one group of people. Unprotected sex is still unsafe sex no matter what orifice you choose to stick it in.

    A very minor insignificant part of the population is sexually attracted to animals,prepubescent children,robots, their relatives and are into all kinds of other sexual fetishes. Should we teach about beastiaility/Zoophilia ,pedophilia,technosexuality, genetic sexuality/incest and a whole bunch of other sexual attractions and desires?
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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    So then I ask myself, are you FOR or AGAINST gay sex being taught about in schools?
    I find it odd you need to ask. My opposition has been clear and categorical throughout.

    I am against it being taught, because, from a health and safety standpoint, it is not relevant. It matters not whether the actors are heterosexual nor homosexual, and injecting the sexuality dimension puts the teacher in the position of saying that something is "ok" or "not ok" from a moral rather than a health/safety perspective. Calling sex "gay sex" or "straight sex" injects a level of moralization that is incompatible with the proper role of the public school system. Schools should not be teaching morals either one way or the other. Teaching "gay" anything is necessarily incorporating a moral content into the curriculum and is wrong; teaching "straight" anything is necessarily incorporating a moral content into the curriculum and is wrong. Schools should refrain from moral content of any kind in any subject.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    What if the students ask about gay sex in school, should the school ignore it?
    If you were to read, you would have seen my response to Orius on this:
    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    If the topic of attractions comes up, the teacher says something witty like "that is beyond the scope of this class. Questions like that are best asked of your parents."
    A physics teacher would not entertain questions on English, a history teacher would not entertain questions on biology, why should a sex education teacher entertain questions on relationships and sexuality (and "gay" anything falls into that topic, which is separate and apart from sex education)?

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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    I want to throw something else into this debate.

    Distinguishing "gay sex" from "straight sex" is discriminatory, and is dismissive of the very real emotional bonds that form within homosexual couples. Being "gay" or "straight" is not a simplistic question of with whom one wishes to fornicate. Calling any sexual practice "gay" or "straight" puts undue focus on the sexual expression of attraction, and thus minimized the multivariate and multidimensional aspects of attraction, sexuality, and relationships.

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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    [QUOTE=celticlord;1057987023]I want to throw something else into this debate.

    Distinguishing "gay sex" from "straight sex" is discriminatory, /QUOTE]

    Dont you mean teaching straight sex only and leaving out gay sex is discrminatory?
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    Re: Should schools include gay sex as part of sex education curriculum?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    I want to throw something else into this debate.

    Distinguishing "gay sex" from "straight sex" is discriminatory,
    Dont you mean teaching straight sex only and leaving out gay sex is discrminatory?
    No, I do not.

    I mean that characterizing any sex as either "gay sex" or "straight sex" is discriminatory. The sexual orientation aspect is simply not relevant.

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