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    Re: Should child bearing be a controlled privilege?

    Guess it depends if you feel your country owns you or not.


    Fascist ideas are often popular.This is a pretty revealing thread.
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    Re: Should child bearing be a controlled privilege?

    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    This country is going way off track in terms of having children at young ages and having children with 5 different fathers etc.
    Having children at a young age is actually ideal. That is when we are most fertile and most likely to produce healthy children. Having children in their mid-to-late teens also considerably reduces a woman's chances of breast, cervical, and ovarian cancer.

    One of the most serious errors in our culture is our attempts to keep extending adolescence and putting off adult responsibilities later and later. Men and women should start seriously considering marrying and having children reasonably soon after becoming capable.

    I certainly agree with you that promiscuity and having children out of wedlock need to be much more strongly discouraged-- and I am happy to entertain any ideas you might have to that end, provided that they do not surrender authority over sexuality and reproduction to the State.

    You should know that when you are proposing State authority that I, in my ideal State, would not want to exercise, that you are probably heading into dangerous territory.

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    Re: Should child bearing be a controlled privilege?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Having children at a young age is actually ideal. That is when we are most fertile and most likely to produce healthy children. Having children in their mid-to-late teens also considerably reduces a woman's chances of breast, cervical, and ovarian cancer.

    One of the most serious errors in our culture is our attempts to keep extending adolescence and putting off adult responsibilities later and later. Men and women should start seriously considering marrying and having children reasonably soon after becoming capable.

    I certainly agree with you that promiscuity and having children out of wedlock need to be much more strongly discouraged-- and I am happy to entertain any ideas you might have to that end, provided that they do not surrender authority over sexuality and reproduction to the State.

    You should know that when you are proposing State authority that I, in my ideal State, would not want to exercise, that you are probably heading into dangerous territory.
    Some very good insight...

    Perhaps there should be some type of information or ad campaign to change the american attitude from being self centered and all about personal satisfaction in life.

    Not much unlike all the commercials trying to sway public veiw on smoking.

    Except this campaign should work on changing the public veiw on marriage and children relations and somehow change the self centered attitude toward the want to understand and help your spouse and childrens needs attitude.

    If the general perception is changed then this would increase the chances of many more early marriages lasting.

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    Re: Should child bearing be a controlled privilege?

    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    Perhaps there should be some type of information or ad campaign to change the american attitude from being self centered and all about personal satisfaction in life.
    I'd support this, but I don't think it will be nearly enough. I think we need some sort of mass movement to promote these ideas, and to re-engage people in family and public life. Unfortunately, such a thing would be fighting practically the entire weight of the media and consumer culture.

    I'm not sure how to accomplish it.

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    Re: Should child bearing be a controlled privilege?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    I'd support this, but I don't think it will be nearly enough. I think we need some sort of mass movement to promote these ideas, and to re-engage people in family and public life. Unfortunately, such a thing would be fighting practically the entire weight of the media and consumer culture.

    I'm not sure how to accomplish it.
    Once the entertainment industry got its meathooks in the saleability of sex, lust, mass dating, search for the worlds perfect spouse, etc.

    This helped spark the masses attitude toward drop your spouse like a hot potato and constantly upgrade.

    Like a perpetual search for greener grass under the pretense of fulfilling ones self centered desires at any cost to siblings and current spouse.
    I believe that todays world of advanced transportation, greater contact with many more people, and easier communication routes helped feed into this

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    mad Re: Should child bearing be a controlled privilege?

    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    Should there be regulations on the right to bear children?

    Perhaps being able to have kids should be looked upon like being a privilage like the right to drive a car?

    Should parent wannabe's be mandated to take a class and pass a test.

    Should there be regulations on being able to qualify to bear children such as marriage, financial stability, minimum age limits etc.

    Should it be imposed that a type birth control is mandatory until certain qualifications are met?


    There should definitely be regulations on the right to bear children. There are too many people bringing children into the world when they aren't even capable of taking care of themselves. It's not right. I'm not just talking about teenagers, either. I'm only 17 and I could raise children better than all my friends parents can. I'd bet my life on that.
    Being allowed to have children should be a privilage, not a right. Especially for stupid, incompetant morons.
    I wish so badly there was a way someone could monitor everyone in the country at once, but there isn't.
    More irresponsible people are going to continue to pop out babies and there's nothing anyone can do about it. I know no one outside of my own family who does a good job parenting. I'm so sick of my friends' stupid parents. They know absolutely nothing!
    Also, I think that as long as someone isn't a total douche-bag and is financially stable, they should be able to have a child if they really want one.
    If there were to be a test, it'd be long as hell.
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    Anyone who failed, though, would have one more chance and then have to sterilize themselves.
    For me, that'd be very ideal. You can't blame a girl for wishing.
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    Re: Should child bearing be a controlled privilege?

    It's the only way to achieve a peaceful resolution to the
    supremacist impulse, which is genetic.

    The other way will probably involve more nuclear weapon use.

    Excellent question once again.
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    Re: Should child bearing be a controlled privilege?

    My country controlling my reproductive organs? ROFL no, I think not. Only a fascist would want that kind of invasive, impractical, all-encompassing government control over our own bodies. No way in ****ing hell is anyone going to tell me that I *have* to have a child, much less that I *can't* have one.

    That said, I do think that women on public assistance should be required to use the pill, or have an IUD put in, or *something* to help prevent them from having MORE children while on government assistance. They simply have a choice... take the money and adhere to the rules/guidelines. Or, don't take the money.

    However, I think the above could really only be implemented if there is a reversible means of birth control for women that doesn't have all the health dangers and awful side effects of the pill. An IUD would work well, IMO, though. Which is actually better because that wouldn't rely on the mother actually DOING anything to continue the birth control. When she wanted the IUD out, she stops receiving public assistance. Simple.
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    Re: Should child bearing be a controlled privilege?

    Quote Originally Posted by MsCommonSensiality View Post
    More irresponsible people are going to continue to pop out babies and there's nothing anyone can do about it.
    this is rather irrelevant but I'm always amused by the phrase "popping out babies"...as if it's anything like that.

    oops, looks like it's been nine months already, I'll just pop this thing out on my lunch break, drop it off at my mom's and head back to work.

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    Re: Should child bearing be a controlled privilege?

    Quote Originally Posted by MsCommonSensiality View Post
    More irresponsible people are going to continue to pop out babies and there's nothing anyone can do about it.
    Sure there is. You can refuse to pay for their offspring, then hold them entirely responsible for their care. If they cannot care for them, you take them away and place them with adoptive parents. Make it absolutely clear that this will be the situation for each and every subsequent child they might have. Heck, since hospitals can, with the support of the state, refuse to release infants to their mothers unless the mother can prove, to the satisfaction of the state, that the parent is financially, emotionally and physically capable of caring for the infant properly, most of these kids will never go home in the first place.

    Damn straight we can do something about it.
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