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Which is more barbaric/worse?

Which is more barbaric/worse?

  • Killing an animal for someones else to eat.

    Votes: 1 50.0%

  • Eating an animal someone else has killed.

    Votes: 1 50.0%
  • Total voters
    2
You forgot to include "Neither"
 
Neither one is barbaric in the least, both represent reality and survival.

Come up with a better poll.
 
Cephus said:
Neither one is barbaric in the least, both represent reality and survival.
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Couldn't "reality and survival," in nature, be considered brutal, rough, cruel, fierce and wild... all synonyms of barbaric?

Survival of the fittest isn't exactly what most of us would consider a 'humane' or 'civilized' approach to our own households. Or is it?

I'm not a PETA type in the least.

But I've got a very strong feeling that not one of those 'civilized' leaders who met at the G20 this week had any desire to be seen chopping the head off their own chicken dinner and dressing it in front of the cameras. In fact, our own president 'spares' the life of some fortunate turkey in a very public, if somewhat humorous, act of humanity every Thanksgiving. There's a reason for that, wouldn't you agree?

;)
 
Grateful Heart said:
Couldn't "reality and survival," in nature, be considered brutal, rough, cruel, fierce and wild... all synonyms of barbaric?
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Anyone that knows anything about nature knows that it is a cruel, barbaric place.
 
jamesrage said:
Oh great another ***** vegan poll. It cracks me up how vegans try to defy nature by refusing to eat meat.Humans are omnivores by nature and it is ****en idiotic to give up meat or to give up vegatables.
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Wow its a just a simple question.

I'm not a vegan actually. I eat meat, I love meat.
 
I also want to thank several people for misunderstanding this poll.

Thank you.

I said choose one, so decide which one is CLOSER to being worse or barbaric.

Stop whining.
 
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Cilogy said:
I also want to thank several people for misunderstanding this poll.

Thank you.

I said choose one, so decide which one is CLOSER to being worse or barbaric.

Stop whining.
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Well that's the problem... neither is closer to being barbaric than the other. Neither are even remotely barbaric.
 
Cilogy said:
I also want to thank several people for misunderstanding this poll.

Thank you.

I said choose one, so decide which one is CLOSER to being worse or barbaric.

Stop whining.
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And, the correct answer is "neither", an option you did not offer.

You created a crappy poll. Get over it.
 
rivrrat said:
Well that's the problem... neither is closer to being barbaric than the other. Neither are even remotely barbaric.
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I think the word 'barbaric' might be a bit confusing. In the strictest sense, barbaric simply means uncivilized.

As I pointed out in my previous post, I doubt many people who pride themselves on being 'civilized' butcher their own food. Slaughtering and butchering is usually a thing done on the 'other side of town', out of sight.

It's no coincidence that we often refer to mass murderers as 'butchers' and 'slaughterers,' is it?

;)
 
Goshin said:
Was there some point to this poll??


I'm guessing, "no"?
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LOL! Do not be mean!! RoboCop, Wanna go eat some rare steaks? :mrgreen:
 
Grateful Heart said:
I think the word 'barbaric' might be a bit confusing. In the strictest sense, barbaric simply means uncivilized.

As I pointed out in my previous post, I doubt many people who pride themselves on being 'civilized' butcher their own food. Slaughtering and butchering is usually a thing done on the 'other side of town', out of sight.

It's no coincidence that we often refer to mass murderers as 'butchers' and 'slaughterers,' is it?

;)
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I guess I grew up on the 'other side of town'. My extended family has hunted and farmed all their lives. For me to see a deer being drug in, gutted, and skinned was no big deal. And squirrels? My grandma used to skin them on her kitchen counter every season, right before throwing them into a skillet. That's not even counting the time I've spent on farms with the piggies and the chickens and the cows.

I don't consider my friends and family that raise and/or kill their own meat to be "uncivilized".
 
Goobieman said:
And, the correct answer is "neither", an option you did not offer.

You created a crappy poll. Get over it.
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I've found that whenever I make a poll with an "other" option in it, people whine anyway and some reasons for picking "other" make no sense.

Also, I realized I have made a mistake and I apologize, I should have said "if you were forced to make a decision" or something to that extent.

Its an opinion poll, not a right answer poll.

Get over it.
 
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rivrrat said:
I guess I grew up on the 'other side of town'. My extended family has hunted and farmed all their lives. For me to see a deer being drug in, gutted, and skinned was no big deal. And squirrels? My grandma used to skin them on her kitchen counter every season, right before throwing them into a skillet. That's not even counting the time I've spent on farms with the piggies and the chickens and the cows.

I don't consider my friends and family that raise and/or kill their own meat to be "uncivilized".
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I am an avid hunter. To me there is something very enjoyable about being able to go out and hunt, clean, and cook your own feast than to simply buy meat from the market.
 
rivrrat said:
I guess I grew up on the 'other side of town'. My extended family has hunted and farmed all their lives. For me to see a deer being drug in, gutted, and skinned was no big deal. And squirrels? My grandma used to skin them on her kitchen counter every season, right before throwing them into a skillet. That's not even counting the time I've spent on farms with the piggies and the chickens and the cows.

I don't consider my friends and family that raise and/or kill their own meat to be "uncivilized".
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Well I wouldn't consider you or your friends and family uncivilized either. At least not based on the slaughtering of food animals.

And as other 'hunters' have pointed out, dressing a deer or preparing a fish does not make one a Neanderthal.

At the same time, I think the majority of us in modern societies prefer not to butcher our own meat... not only out of convenience, but because we tend to consider the activity a bit unpleasant. Do you disagree with that notion?

;)
 
Grateful Heart said:
Well I wouldn't consider you or your friends and family uncivilized either. At least not based on the slaughtering of food animals.

And as other 'hunters' have pointed out, dressing a deer or preparing a fish does not make one a Neanderthal.

At the same time, I think the majority of us in modern societies prefer not to butcher our own meat... not only out of convenience, but because we tend to consider the activity a bit unpleasant. Do you disagree with that notion?

;)
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I find taking a **** to be unpleasant to, but it must be done. ;)

I don't hunt, and have no desire to. But if I *needed* to, I have no qualms about picking up my dad's rifle and shooting bambi. I just don't *need* to because I pay someone else to do it. I also pay someone else to deliver my mail and clean the sewage tanks. :) My point being that just because I would *prefer* to pay someone else to perform certain tasks for me, doesn't mean I find those tasks to fit the definition of barbaric or uncivilized.
 
Cilogy said:
Wow its a just a simple question.
I'm not a vegan actually. I eat meat, I love meat.
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I find it hard to believe that any omnivore would actually make a poll with only those two choices as poll options. To suggest that killing animals for food or eating meat is somehow barbaric or something bad is blatant attempt to demonize eating meat.So I still stand by this statement-"Oh great another ***** vegan poll. It cracks me up how vegans try to defy nature by refusing to eat meat.Humans are omnivores by nature and it is ****en idiotic to give up meat or to give up vegatables."
 
Grateful Heart said:
I think the word 'barbaric' might be a bit confusing. In the strictest sense, barbaric simply means uncivilized.

As I pointed out in my previous post, I doubt many people who pride themselves on being 'civilized' butcher their own food. Slaughtering and butchering is usually a thing done on the 'other side of town', out of sight.

It's no coincidence that we often refer to mass murderers as 'butchers' and 'slaughterers,' is it?

;)
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we call them butchers and slaughterers because they butcher and slaughter people
 
ur poll sux LOL
 
rivrrat said:
I find taking a **** to be unpleasant to, but it must be done. ;)
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You couldn't have provided a better example of my point. You take your **** behind closed doors.

If you did otherwise, people might think you were, well, just a bit uncivilized.

:2wave:
 
jamesrage said:
I find it hard to believe that any omnivore would actually make a poll with only those two choices as poll options. To suggest that killing animals for food or eating meat is somehow barbaric or something bad is blatant attempt to demonize eating meat.So I still stand by this statement-"Oh great another ***** vegan poll. It cracks me up how vegans try to defy nature by refusing to eat meat.Humans are omnivores by nature and it is ****en idiotic to give up meat or to give up vegatables."
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No. Wrong.

I did not suggest either of them IS barbaric, I asked which is closer to it, or worse than the other.

For this situation, they could be the most moral and supported things in our universe but I still asked which is CLOSER.

I do not demonize eating meat. Sorry :(.

I love it man.
 
Cilogy said:
No. Wrong.

I did not suggest either of them IS barbaric,
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Your poll with those two poll options says otherwise.

I asked which is closer to it, or worse than the other.
For this situation, they could be the most moral and supported things in our universe but I still asked which is CLOSER.
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Seeing how humans are omnivores neither is barbaric and neither is worse than the other.


I do not demonize eating meat
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Your poll question with those two poll options says otherwise.Only a vegan who is trying to defy nature would suggest or come up with a poll that suggest that some how there is something wrong with killing animals for food or eating meat.


. Sorry :(.
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I know you are sorry, now apologize.
 
jamesrage said:
Your poll with those two poll options says otherwise.
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Which is why I said sorry and that I made a mistake earlier.


Seeing how humans are omnivores neither is barbaric and neither is worse than the other.
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Ok I understand I made a mistake I should have added another option.



Your poll question with those two poll options says otherwise.Only a vegan who is trying to defy nature would suggest or come up with a poll that suggest that some how there is something wrong with killing animals for food or eating meat.
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I have no idea how else to say this, but I swear to you I am not a vegan. I don't even know what a vegan is. I'm dead serious, I have no idea.

I have always eaten different types of meat and I would never say anything against it.



I know you are sorry, now apologize.
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Ok I apologize. I admit I made a mistake.

I was trying to make a philosophical or thoughtful point and possibly incite some good responses. It obviously backfired, I'm sorry, I guess didn't know what kind of people were going to respond.
 
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Cilogy said:
I've found that whenever I make a poll with an "other" option in it, people whine anyway and some reasons for picking "other" make no sense.

Also, I realized I have made a mistake and I apologize, I should have said "if you were forced to make a decision" or something to that extent.

Its an opinion poll, not a right answer poll.

Get over it.
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The problem is, the question seems to be nearly sense-free. You might as well have asked, "Which is more barbaric, cooking dinner for someone else to eat, or eating a dinner someone else has cooked?"

I mean, what the frak is that, a Zen Koan? "What is the sound of one hand clapping... If a man farts in the woods, and there's no one there to hear it, does it still stink?"

Seriously, was there a point or purpose in this, or where you just screwing around for your own amusement?

I was trying to make a philosophical or thoughtful point
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Could you elaborate on that?


G.
 
Nothing like killing your own feed.
 
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