View Poll Results: What documents did you learn about in your experience in a US Public School?

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  • Federalist Papers

    16 39.02%
  • Declaration of Independance

    37 90.24%
  • Bill of Rights

    41 100.00%
  • Remainder of the Constitution

    33 80.49%
  • Articles of Confederation

    22 53.66%
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Thread: Public Schools and the Constitution

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    fyi Re: Public Schools and the Constitution

    If one analyzes the true purpose of government (to protect individual liberty) he should understand that public -- i.e. socialist -- education is in itself UN-Constitutional.

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    Re: Public Schools and the Constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by ronpaulvoter View Post
    If one analyzes the true purpose of government (to protect individual liberty) he should understand that public -- i.e. socialist -- education is in itself UN-Constitutional.
    I can't think of anything that's going to insure more individual liberty than an education.

    Some things like education and health care can't avoid being socialist. If we won't allow kids to be stupid or sick people to just die then we must be socialist about it.

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    fyi Re: Public Schools and the Constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    I can't think of anything that's going to insure more individual liberty than an education.

    Some things like education and health care can't avoid being socialist. If we won't allow kids to be stupid or sick people to just die then we must be socialist about it.
    Your first paragraph is true. Education is very important. It is TOO important to be run by government. It is the PARENTS' responsibility to educate their children -- NOT the government or other people.

    What do you mean "education and health care can't avoid being socialist?" Of course they can. And they MUST if we are to remain a free nation. There are plenty of private entities that can help those in need.

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    Re: Public Schools and the Constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    I can't think of anything that's going to insure more individual liberty than an education.

    Some things like education and health care can't avoid being socialist. If we won't allow kids to be stupid or sick people to just die then we must be socialist about it.
    Sick people die all the time.

    Ignorant people still get public school diplomas.

    That being the case, what's the point in public health or public education, since both violate the Constitution?

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    Re: Public Schools and the Constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by ronpaulvoter View Post
    Your first paragraph is true. Education is very important. It is TOO important to be run by government. It is the PARENTS' responsibility to educate their children -- NOT the government or other people.

    What do you mean "education and health care can't avoid being socialist?" Of course they can. And they MUST if we are to remain a free nation. There are plenty of private entities that can help those in need.
    We don't allow people to just die. We never have. We let them go out of business. We let them become drug addicts. We let them sleep in doorways. But we don't let them just die from illness or injury.

    Humans are a social animals. It's just a fact.

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    Re: Public Schools and the Constitution

    If I recall correctly, we went over the Declaration, and Bill of Rights in depth, but as far as the remainder of the constitution, we briefly hit up certain aspects of it but never got in depth with the whole thing.

    The other options may have been briefly mentioned, but I never recall studying them in depth. I think in the AP US History classes they went into those things, because I remember helping this girl I wanted to get with, with her homework even though I wasn't in AP classes. I was monumentally lazy in High School.
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    Re: Public Schools and the Constitution

    Declaration of Independance
    Bill of Rights
    Articles of Confederation

    Don't ask me why it is in the UK curriculum ... and Native Americans and slavery


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    Re: Public Schools and the Constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    They are also not easy for younger people to read.
    You have to get use to reading the language and grammar difference, similar to learning to read the KJV bible.
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    Re: Public Schools and the Constitution

    All of them. I went to middle and high school in Utah.

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    Re: Public Schools and the Constitution

    All of them, though it was incumbent on us to pursue the bulk of the Federalist Papers ourselves, and the Articles of Confederation were summarized similarly. I went to grade school right down the road from Intransigent Atheist.

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