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Tattooing children

Tattoos is a purely decorative procedure that can painfully be removed over a period of time. There is no medical or health reason for it.

Circumcisions are medical and health procedure. Similar to tonsils, wisdom teeth, and appendix. Completely different.

Tonsils, wisdom teeth, and appendix are removed for present medical problems. Unless you're volunteering for submarine duty, wisdom teeth aren't typically extracted by scrupulous dentists unless a visible medical condition requires it. My wife, for example has all her teeth, and never had a problem with her wisdom teeth. Being an adult, I made the choice to turn in my wisdom teeth to buy genuine Navy Submarine Ride tickets, good for six years.

Foreskins are removed willy-nilly, if you'll pardon the pun, and almost never have an indicated medical issue to justify the surgery.
 
The child wakes up one day as an adult and forgets who he is and where he came from and has to undergo emergency medical treatment with a drug that he happens to be allergic to. Seconds before he is given the drug he see's a tattoo of some kind on his arm that reminds him of his entire life and he suddenly remember he is allergic. His life is potentially saved because his parents had the foresight to have him get a tattoo when he was born.

Is that the medical reason? :)

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Being an adult, I made the choice to turn in my wisdom teeth to buy genuine Navy Submarine Ride tickets, good for six years.

Foreskins are removed willy-nilly, if you'll pardon the pun, and almost never have an indicated medical issue to justify the surgery.

Ironically, the practice of circumcision was picked up by the British-- who of course passed it to their colonists-- for military reasons. Used to be, if uncut soldiers were captured by Muslims or Jews in the Middle East, they would be forcibly circumcised and many of them died from infections as a result. So, before sending their soldiers to the sandbox, the British started circumcising them in order to prevent this.

Then we just kinda kept doing it because we thought that it discouraged masturbation.
 
What about piercings? Lots of little girl babies get their ears pierced by mommies who think it's just sooooo cute! How is that different (aside from the social acceptance of ear piercing). What if Mommy got baby son's eyebrow pierced--or little girl's nose pierced? Belly button? How about after the circ healed --a Prince Albert?
 
What about piercings? Lots of little girl babies get their ears pierced by mommies who think it's just sooooo cute! How is that different (aside from the social acceptance of ear piercing). What if Mommy got baby son's eyebrow pierced--or little girl's nose pierced? Belly button? How about after the circ healed --a Prince Albert?

I guess when one reserves the right to rip their child's arms and legs off, what's a tattoo?
 
I guess when one reserves the right to rip their child's arms and legs off, what's a tattoo?

I suppose I'd rather they do a sleave of tattoos on their child's arm than rip that arm off and cast it and the whole child aside as so much waste.:(
 
Tattooing = criminal element
And these mentally ill so-called "parents" want to brand their offspring for life ???
Its bad enough that some teach their children hatred and intolerance for 18 years which is even worse than branding..




Wow, if that ain't prejudiced bigotry based on ignorance........
 
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And I am happy to point out that even Disney understands the childish behavior associated with calling another group of people "savages", when they have just as much value as you.





Oh I get it now.... when I call a rapist, a terrorist, or a dirtbag violent criminal a savage, your point in posting that was to let me know they were people too, people who have just as much value as you and I....



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Damn, if I actually watched that video, I would have laid into you a long time ago on your love of the savage. :lol:
 
Genital "mutilation"...nice.

Personally, the absence of a fleshy and extraneous bacteria trap on the end of my penis is worth the non-memory of having it removed.

Ethereal, you have been scarred (pun intended) for life on a psychological basis due to your circumcision. You just don't know it yet. :roll:
 
Genital "mutilation"...nice.

Personally, the absence of a fleshy and extraneous bacteria trap on the end of my penis is worth the non-memory of having it removed.

For shame. You're naturally a brain washed fool, given birth from parents who were horrendous villians that are blood thirsty savages who run around with machetes mutilating little children for their own vengeful purposes of pure sadistic pleasures. During the nights they likely jabbed you full of needles while they wiped the blood that came from you over their bodies because they were clearly only caring about completely ruining your pscyhe and rendering you inable to experience pleasure. No civilized, intelligent, actually thinking person would dear want a bit of skin snipped off on par with flaying off of skin or removal of pieces of the body that severely affect pleasure. Naturally your parent would've sewed up the vagina of your sister if you had/have one because the complete and utter rending useless of an organ is EXACTLY like the barbaric horrible act they did to you. Your parents are murderous mutilating sadistic fools and you sir are naturally brainwashed into thinking you actually like the abonimation you have between your legs.

For Shame!

:roll:
 
Personally, my take on it is that the parents should be allowed to choose (be it circumcision, tattoos, ear piecing etc). I would not choose to have my son circumcised.

I am in a debate with my wife about future daughters and ear piercing. I guess Italians do this to their daughters as infants, but I really don't want it done to my infant daughter, she wants to keep her families tradition. What do I do on that?

The tattoo thing is definitely a "no" as I personally do not like tattoos at all. To be honest, I'm no fan of piercings either. I'm one of the very few people I know of my generation that has never gotten a piercing or a tattoo.

Oddly, my personality type is such that when people learn this, they are usually surprised by it. I've just never felt the need to decorate myself. It always seemed like vanity to me.

So obviously, my feelings about any type of adornment or alteration for the sake of appearances are consistent. I'm against them on a philosophical level. I don't like it that our society is focused on appearances over substance and function. I never sought to create an image of myself that was visual. I have always sought to make myself into the image I want to convey by altering myself internally. I allow my personality to convey my image, not my appearance.

But that's just me. While I plan on trying to foster this same mentality in my children. Who am I to decide to force other parents to foster it in their children?

I sure as **** don't want other people coming around telling me that I need to get my daughters ears pierced or put make-up on her or let my son get tattoos. Or teach them that the "clothes make the man/woman". I would go bat-**** if someone came in and tried to force me to teach my kids those things that I feel are nonsense. And there are plenty of people who feel the exact opposite of me on this.

So I lean on the side of personal freedom of choice. If that includes things I don't agree with so be it. My only issue is if there is legitimate harm being done to the kid. And as someone who has been circumcised, I can say that there is no real harm in it.

But, even though I acknowledge that it is basically harmless, I would never do it to my son because of my personal views on alterations and adornments over aesthetic bull****.
 
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I am in a debate with my wife about future daughters and ear piercing. I guess Italians do this to their daughters as infants, but I really don't want it done to my infant daughter, she wants to keep her families tradition. What do I do on that?
I think the early ear piercing is somewhat related to the early sexualiztion kids get from everywhere in society today--especially girls. Have you walked through the pre-teen girls' section in a childrens' clothing store? Trashy is the norm.

I gave in and let my daughter get her ears pierced at eight. I still think that's too early, but her Godmother (irony:2razz:) wanted to do it with her as a special "girl-time" and I'd been putting my daughter off since she was five and all her little friends were sporting dangly earrings. I used it as a learning tool--having her care for them herself as they healed and talking to her about what kind of earrings are appropriate for her age, etc. I still would have preferred waiting until she was at least ten, but... :shrug:

No make-up until 10th grade except for playing dress up. But then again--my daughter is gorgeous, so...:mrgreen:
 
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I think the early ear piercing is somewhat related to the early sexualiztion kids get from everywhere in society today--especially girls. Have you walked through the pre-teen girls' section in a childrens' clothing store? Trashy is the norm.

I gave in and let my daughter get her ears pierced at eight. I still think that's too early, but her Godmother (irony:2razz:) wanted to do it with her as a special "girl-time" and I'd been putting my daughter off since she was five and all her little friends were sporting dangly earrings. I used it as a learning tool--having her care for them herself as they healed and talking to her about what kind of earrings are appropriate for her age, etc. I still would have preferred waiting until she was at least ten, but... :shrug:

No make-up until 10th grade except for playing dress up. But then again--my daughter is gorgeous, so...:mrgreen:


At ten they can get tattoos for some "girl time":mrgreen:
 
I think the early ear piercing is somewhat related to the early sexualiztion kids get from everywhere in society today--especially girls. Have you walked through the pre-teen girls' section in a childrens' clothing store? Trashy is the norm.

I gave in and let my daughter get her ears pierced at eight. I still think that's too early, but her Godmother (irony:2razz:) wanted to do it with her as a special "girl-time" and I'd been putting my daughter off since she was five and all her little friends were sporting dangly earrings. I used it as a learning tool--having her care for them herself as they healed and talking to her about what kind of earrings are appropriate for her age, etc. I still would have preferred waiting until she was at least ten, but... :shrug:

No make-up until 10th grade except for playing dress up. But then again--my daughter is gorgeous, so...:mrgreen:

With my wife's family, I don't think it really has anything to do with sexualization. They are very prim and proper. Not at all in keeping with the Italian/Dego stereotype. They are actually very prudish. It's quite funny actually given the fact that I'm a wee bit more of the rambunctious sort (I really am an Irish stereotype).

I honestly think it's just a case of family tradition. It's pretty common in Italian culture to get a babies ears pierced. They also put necklaces and bracelets on baby boys as a tradition as well.

My views on necklaces, bracelets, rings, etc are exactly the same as pierced ears or tattoos for the very same reasons. I forgot to mention those things before. I've literally only worn one piece of jewelery in my entire life, and that's my wedding ring. And I only wear that on special occasions to keep the wife happy.

So I got that fight in the future to look forward to. Yayy!!!
 
Tattoos are not "criminal", nor do they signify anything "criminal".

Your statements are categorically and completely wrong.These are my opinions, the way I see things

(BTW--branding is also not "criminal", and is quite popular in certain circles).I'd stay away from these certain circles..
The way people see things, is NOT right nor wrong...
Branding or tattooing a child is abusive, disrespectful, even hateful.....
What a man does to his own body is of course his own business..However stupid and thoughtless it may be..
When I see a tatto... the first reaction is NEGATIVE.....Criminals seem to love their brand..
The relationship, however right or wrong should be obvious...
 
The way people see things, is NOT right nor wrong...
Branding or tattooing a child is abusive, disrespectful, even hateful.....
What a man does to his own body is of course his own business..However stupid and thoughtless it may be..
When I see a tatto... the first reaction is NEGATIVE.....Criminals seem to love their brand..
The relationship, however right or wrong should be obvious...




Is York Haven one of them amish towns? :lol:
 
There is no right or wrong answer to this. It's strictly a cultural issue. Nothing more. Nothing less.

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That one could think that this mutilation is a cultural thing....
How to fix ?
Love, tolerance, understanding......do not try to change these animals...
Lets keep this crap in Africa, they will become civilized sooner or later...What worries me is that other people here may do the same thing..
Another reason for child protection services...
 
The way people see things, is NOT right nor wrong...
Calling tattoos criminal is wrong.
Branding or tattooing a child is abusive, disrespectful, even hateful....
It's not something I would do, but abusive, disrespectful, and hateful? Not on its own. This, too, is wrong.
What a man does to his own body is of course his own business..However stupid and thoughtless it may be..
Exactly. It is his business. Which means you have zero opinion about it, just like the rest of us. Arguing otherwise is wrong.

When I see a tatto... the first reaction is NEGATIVE.....Criminals seem to love their brand..
The relationship, however right or wrong should be obvious...
Indeed. The relationship between your perceptions and your hatred and bigotry is quite obvious.

Equally obvious is that you are wrong.
 
That plate-lip thing is just something they do so that my nuts have a place to rest on.
 
Is York Haven one of them amish towns? :lol:
York Haven is a poor red-neck community,IMO......the people... hard working and generally honest, respectful.
The Amish society is a good one, they have some interesting philosophical ideas, I agree with some of them.
Tattooing is for the criminal element, and for those who contribute nothing worthwhile to society...
 
York Haven is a poor red-neck community,IMO......the people... hard working and generally honest, respectful.
The Amish society is a good one, they have some interesting philosophical ideas, I agree with some of them.
Tattooing is for the criminal element, and for those who contribute nothing worthwhile to society...

I was a criminal element when I got tattooed...but people change. My tattoo, which was a pagan ankh is now a Christian cross due to the stretching my "growth" has imposed. It is totally representative of my life course.

My hub likes his as body art--stuff he values and wants to carry around. It doesn't make sense to me anymore to have it permanent for that reason, but I like my tattoo for how we have evolved together.

I guess I agree and disagree with you.:mrgreen:
 
In the age where parents have every right to put their kids in crazy religious sects, give them dangerous weapons, give them cigarettes, women have every right to abortion and "names" like Apple & Aryan Nation. Are you people seriously discussing parents slapping a bit of ink on their kids? Or do kids suddenly start having freedom when it comes to things we disapprove of? Wait is this thread a metaphor for rivrrats disapproval of removing a boy's foreskin? If you ask me. If some retarded parent wants to slap a bit of ink on a baby. Let them. If the kid hates his parents as a result a few years down the line then it's on them.
 
Calling tattoos criminal is wrong.No, it is my opinion, very strongly stated.


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It's not something I would do, but abusive, disrespectful, and hateful? Not on its own. This, too, is wrong.

Exactly. It is his business. Which means you have zero opinion about it, just like the rest of us. Arguing otherwise is wrong.If you say so...


Indeed. The relationship between your perceptions and your hatred and bigotry is quite obvious.As you see it, your opinion..
There is no hatred nor bigotry, bur some fear.. and repulsion

Equally obvious is that you are wrong.
You have a strange concept of right and wrong...

Apparently, you think this branding, this tattooing is OK.. I do not.
And on one's children, it is , IMO, wrong, and criminal.....
 
York Haven is a poor red-neck community,IMO......the people... hard working and generally honest, respectful.
The Amish society is a good one, they have some interesting philosophical ideas, I agree with some of them.
Tattooing is for the criminal element, and for those who contribute nothing worthwhile to society...

ROFL

You mean like...
A great many of our brave soldiers?
Nearly every celebrity?
Politicians?
Businessmen?
Royalty?
Doctors?
Lawyers?
Clergy?
Police Officers?
Olympic Athletes?
Over a quarter of the people in the US alone?

Yeah, no one in the world with a tat contributes anything to society at all. :roll:

Methinks you need to get out of the dark ages and wake up to the reality of the world you live in.
 
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