"I am appalled that somebody who is the nominee...would take that kind of position"
"A court took away a presidency"
"...the brother of a man running for president was the governor of the state..."
It's horrifying because Trump is blunt instead of making overt implications.
Personally, my take on it is that the parents should be allowed to choose (be it circumcision, tattoos, ear piecing etc). I would not choose to have my son circumcised.
I am in a debate with my wife about future daughters and ear piercing. I guess Italians do this to their daughters as infants, but I really don't want it done to my infant daughter, she wants to keep her families tradition. What do I do on that?
The tattoo thing is definitely a "no" as I personally do not like tattoos at all. To be honest, I'm no fan of piercings either. I'm one of the very few people I know of my generation that has never gotten a piercing or a tattoo.
Oddly, my personality type is such that when people learn this, they are usually surprised by it. I've just never felt the need to decorate myself. It always seemed like vanity to me.
So obviously, my feelings about any type of adornment or alteration for the sake of appearances are consistent. I'm against them on a philosophical level. I don't like it that our society is focused on appearances over substance and function. I never sought to create an image of myself that was visual. I have always sought to make myself into the image I want to convey by altering myself internally. I allow my personality to convey my image, not my appearance.
But that's just me. While I plan on trying to foster this same mentality in my children. Who am I to decide to force other parents to foster it in their children?
I sure as **** don't want other people coming around telling me that I need to get my daughters ears pierced or put make-up on her or let my son get tattoos. Or teach them that the "clothes make the man/woman". I would go bat-**** if someone came in and tried to force me to teach my kids those things that I feel are nonsense. And there are plenty of people who feel the exact opposite of me on this.
So I lean on the side of personal freedom of choice. If that includes things I don't agree with so be it. My only issue is if there is legitimate harm being done to the kid. And as someone who has been circumcised, I can say that there is no real harm in it.
But, even though I acknowledge that it is basically harmless, I would never do it to my son because of my personal views on alterations and adornments over aesthetic bull****.
Last edited by Tucker Case; 04-01-09 at 08:46 AM.
I gave in and let my daughter get her ears pierced at eight. I still think that's too early, but her Godmother (irony) wanted to do it with her as a special "girl-time" and I'd been putting my daughter off since she was five and all her little friends were sporting dangly earrings. I used it as a learning tool--having her care for them herself as they healed and talking to her about what kind of earrings are appropriate for her age, etc. I still would have preferred waiting until she was at least ten, but...
No make-up until 10th grade except for playing dress up. But then again--my daughter is gorgeous, so...
Last edited by Felicity; 04-01-09 at 09:46 AM.
I honestly think it's just a case of family tradition. It's pretty common in Italian culture to get a babies ears pierced. They also put necklaces and bracelets on baby boys as a tradition as well.
My views on necklaces, bracelets, rings, etc are exactly the same as pierced ears or tattoos for the very same reasons. I forgot to mention those things before. I've literally only worn one piece of jewelery in my entire life, and that's my wedding ring. And I only wear that on special occasions to keep the wife happy.
So I got that fight in the future to look forward to. Yayy!!!
Branding or tattooing a child is abusive, disrespectful, even hateful.....
What a man does to his own body is of course his own business..However stupid and thoughtless it may be..
When I see a tatto... the first reaction is NEGATIVE.....Criminals seem to love their brand..
The relationship, however right or wrong should be obvious...
How to fix ?
Love, tolerance, understanding......do not try to change these animals...
Lets keep this crap in Africa, they will become civilized sooner or later...What worries me is that other people here may do the same thing..
Another reason for child protection services...
Equally obvious is that you are wrong.
That plate-lip thing is just something they do so that my nuts have a place to rest on.