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Thread: People: Dumb?

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    Re: People: Dumb?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Good point, and good question, but my main problem is I hear people say it all the time. George Carlin, for example. So what I was basically asking is whether you are of the mindset to complain about how dumb people are or not. I did, I admit, have trouble framing the question, for the reasons you just gave.
    George Carlin is a comedian and his work doesnt neccessarily represent his own views, not that it matters anyway. To say people are stupid doesnt neccessarily mean that person thinks he is therefore smarter, but also agrees that he himself as a person is stupid. At least that would be the logical thing to think unless you exclude yourself as a "person".
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    Re: People: Dumb?

    Everyone's an idiot. Some of us are just smart enough to realize we are idiots.

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    Re: People: Dumb?

    Everyone's an idiot. Some of us are just smart enough to realize we are idiots.
    You mean smarter. Otherwise we'd be all smart for realizing everybody is stupid
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    Re: People: Dumb?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    You mean smarter. Otherwise we'd be all smart for realizing everybody is stupid
    In the context of what I was saying, smart enough =/= smart.

    Like how a dog is smart enough to not **** in it's food. That doesn't mean the dog is actually smart.

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    Re: People: Dumb?

    "All the world is dumb but me and thee, and I've been wondering about thee...."

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    Re: People: Dumb?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    George Carlin is a comedian and his work doesnt neccessarily represent his own views, not that it matters anyway. To say people are stupid doesnt neccessarily mean that person thinks he is therefore smarter, but also agrees that he himself as a person is stupid. At least that would be the logical thing to think unless you exclude yourself as a "person".
    I think it's a safe bet to say that most people consider themselves smarter than they actually are.

    For instance, I can still remember the day in HS, many years ago, that our SAT scores were delivered. There were quite a few of my classmates in near hysterics that their scores were 'too low.' I can't recall a single student complaining that their score was 'too high.' Not one.


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    Re: People: Dumb?

    If you think people as a whole are stupid, try talking to only bits and pieces of them.

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    Re: People: Dumb?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    If you think people as a whole are stupid, try talking to only bits and pieces of them.
    Exactly.

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    Re: People: Dumb?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    If you think people as a whole are stupid, try talking to only bits and pieces of them.
    So blondes wouldn't be so dumb if guys made more eye contact?

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    Re: People: Dumb?

    It depends. Certain people can be quite intelligent when it comes to one thing and insanely stupid when it comes to another. Politically speaking (and I believe that's what you're getting at), I would say absolutely people are dumb, dumb as a sack of stones.

    Don't believe me? Try this; ask one of your friends to explain the difference between a representative democracy and a direct democracy. Or ask them to explain the difference between socialism and capitalism. Or ask them to name and explain the purpose of at least three Amendments in the US Constitution. Or ask them almost anything about politics or economics and see what they say.

    Now, most people will come out and cry and whine about how insensitive I'm being but this misses the point. For instance, if I said most Americans were ignorant as sin when it comes to astronomy, would anyone think twice or contend otherwise? Obviously not, the only difference is Americans are SUPPOSED to be well-versed in civics.

    That's why it strikes such a nerve, because, as Americans, we are obligated to be engaged in our republic, because the strength of a democracy lies within the hearts and minds of the people. Sadly, our hearts and our heads are getting softer while our republic grows weaker. I'll keep saying it until the cornerstone of liberty crumbles beneath the weight of our collective ignorance...bread and circuses.

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