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Thread: People: Dumb?

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    Re: People: Dumb?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    Well... all of the things you listed above were discovered, created, or figured out by about 0.0001% of the population. The remaining 99.9999% simple tag along for the ride.

    Lol i see what you mean but i still refuse to think mankind is dumb, or anything close to it.
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    Re: People: Dumb?

    If this turns into an allegory about socialism I swear to god im going to flip my ****

    On the off chance it's not, then yes, I think the average human is probably a moron.

    An IQ of 100 is bad. Like, really bad. That's 880-on-the-SAT bad. That's miss-all-the-jokes-and-stare-blankly bad.

    Can a person like that hold down a job, be a good person, have a great family, and live a happy life? Of course, but I wouldn't consider that evidence of intelligence.
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    Re: People: Dumb?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    If this turns into an allegory about socialism I swear to god im going to flip my ****

    On the off chance it's not, then yes, I think the average human is probably a moron.

    An IQ of 100 is bad. Like, really bad. That's 880-on-the-SAT bad. That's miss-all-the-jokes-and-stare-blankly bad.

    Can a person like that hold down a job, be a good person, have a great family, and live a happy life? Of course, but I wouldn't consider that evidence of intelligence.
    AS George Carlin said, "Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!"

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    Re: People: Dumb?

    Everyone does dumb things every so often.However you need more than just pure intelligence to be happy or successful.For instance being very intelligent can act as a disadvantage in say investing in the stock market.I remember reading a study that showed people with who considered themselves very intelligent would hold on to unsuccessful shares much longer, and as result lost more money than those who didnt because they had the frame of mind that they where always right.
    The third-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking with the majority. The second-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking with the minority. The first-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking.

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    Re: People: Dumb?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    AS George Carlin said, "Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!"
    God rest his soul
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    Re: People: Dumb?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    God rest his soul


    Sorry, the irony makes me laugh.

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    Re: People: Dumb?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    AS George Carlin said, "Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!"
    He be funny much.

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    Re: People: Dumb?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    If this turns into an allegory about socialism I swear to god im going to flip my ****
    That was originally the idea, until I realized how many conservatives (like you) said yes.

    I cringe whenever I hear people saying how dumb people are. The only logical conclusion that so many people refuse to admit from that mindset is that people are too stupid to make the best obvious choice, and need to be steered by an outside force to do so. If people are dumb, what's to stop them from being taken advantage of from the smart? (At this moment, you may pause to flip your ****)

    The other logical conclusion from saying that people are dumb is that you are smarter than all of them. As it happens, elitism is my #1 least favorite behavior. Not to offend anyone here, there's just no way to get around that.
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    Re: People: Dumb?

    When we say people "are dumb", we are comparing them to another species or something else, something that indicate that people are as a matter of fact on a general scale, are "dumb". If i say Dav, your stupid, im saying so in relation to either my general level of intelligence or people in general. So when one says "are humans dumb", we have to ask first "compared to who, or what?". We cannot make an assumption that something is dumb if we cannot compare it to something that is more intelligent that doesnt exist. Because if we are the most advanced species on this planet, then we are very smart.

    A rat is dumb. When somebody says that, we conciously think on a general scale compared to other animals. When we say a dolphin is clever, again we conciously compare it to general intelligence amongst species of animals, and dolphins are more advanced then most animals. So what the hell could possibly lead us to the assumption people are dumb?
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    Re: People: Dumb?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    When we say people "are dumb", we are comparing them to another species or something else, something that indicate that people are as a matter of fact on a general scale, are "dumb". If i say Dav, your stupid, im saying so in relation to either my general level of intelligence or people in general. So when one says "are humans dumb", we have to ask first "compared to who, or what?". We cannot make an assumption that something is dumb if we cannot compare it to something that is more intelligent that doesnt exist. Because if we are the most advanced species on this planet, then we are very smart.

    A rat is dumb. When somebody says that, we conciously think on a general scale compared to other animals. When we say a dolphin is clever, again we conciously compare it to general intelligence amongst species of animals, and dolphins are more advanced then most animals. So what the hell could possibly lead us to the assumption people are dumb?
    Good point, and good question, but my main problem is I hear people say it all the time. George Carlin, for example. So what I was basically asking is whether you are of the mindset to complain about how dumb people are or not. I did, I admit, have trouble framing the question, for the reasons you just gave.

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