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    Addiction: Crime or Health Issue

    I just read an email I received from L.E.A.P (Law Enforcement Against Prohibition). This is a subject that has been brought up and discussed here for the last several weeks and is also an issue that is gaining more attention nationally in the wake of news coverage of border/cartel violence, California, and Massachusetts' proposed legislation to legalize marijuana, and Obama's joking dismissal of the issue in yesterday's town hall. So figured it was pertinent, I am curious to see what people think on this aspect of the Drug policy issue.

    From the email I received:

    As you probably know, President Barack Obama recently appointed Seattle Police Chief Gil Kerlikowske as his White House "drug czar," more formally known as director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy.

    That means that the U.S. Senate will soon hold a hearing to question and confirm Chief Kerlikowske. Historically, the drug czar confirmation hearings are held in the Senate Judiciary Committee, the panel that handles crime and courts issues.

    But, since many observers - including the president himself - have said that drug abuse is primarily a health concern, don't you think that the drug czar confirmation should be handled by the lawmakers who oversee such issues?

    That's why I'm writing you today.

    Please take one minute to visit Law Enforcement Against Prohibition and send a letter to your two U.S. senators, asking them to support moving the drug czar confirmation hearing to the Senate Health, Education, Labor & Pensions Committee, a much more appropriate forum
    So the question is, notwithstanding current laws, but looking forward, do you think that our drug problem should be a criminal issue, or should it be treated as a health issue?

    And I will confess.. although this is primarily driven by wanting to see what people think on the matter, the exposure and potential for people to agree and follow the link to L.E.A.P. and submit a letter to their representative is just a bonus.
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    Re: Addiction: Crime or Health Issue

    Of course it is both....it must be, at least now. There must be something psychologically wrong with the man who uses drugs..
    This may not be "fixable"..
    What we have in place, apparently does not work....probably never did....
    Dare we innovate ?
    Make some of these deadly drugs legal, controllable, taxable...

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    Re: Addiction: Crime or Health Issue

    Unfortunately I cant edit the poll to make both an option, I changed it at the last minute to allow people to vote for more than one category, and removed both from my catch all.

    So which one is it primarily? should the ONDCP (drug czar) appointment be heard by the judiciary committee, or the Health, education, labor and pensions committee? or should it go through both? is that an option?

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    Re: Addiction: Crime or Health Issue

    Obviously, it's both. Drug addicts are part of a health issue, drug dealers are part of a criminal issue. Since you didn't differentiate between the two, the answer can only be both.
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    Re: Addiction: Crime or Health Issue

    Drug addiction is...not my problem. I should neither taxed to prevent it, nor taxed to treat it, nor taxed to subsidize it (ie, tobacco growing subsidies).

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    Re: Addiction: Crime or Health Issue

    Drug addiction is a health issue. The behaviors that some addicts resort to is a crime issue. As with most things, this is not a black or white issue.
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    Re: Addiction: Crime or Health Issue

    The biggest drug problem is prohibition.
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    Re: Addiction: Crime or Health Issue

    Addiction is not a "health issue" per se, as it ultimately derives from voluntary if unwise choices and actions.

    However, addiction should not itself be considered a crime issue, nor should drug usage. If drug usage is not criminal, then the selling of drugs should be legal, and so that also is not a criminal issue.

    As for the behaviors in which addicts engage, if those behaviors are criminal, they are criminal according to their own merits; addiction is not relevant to that discussion. A robbery is not altered because the motive was money to buy drugs; a murder is not more heinous because it was in a drug frenzy.

    In all cases, addiction, drug consumption, and drug distribution should not be criminalized.

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    Re: Addiction: Crime or Health Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Addiction is not a "health issue" per se, as it ultimately derives from voluntary if unwise choices and actions.
    The disease of addiction is not related to unwise choices. It is a health issue, based biologically. This is why some become addicts, but other, performing the same behavior, do not.

    Further, it is irrelevant as to whether the health concerns are a result of choices or actions. They are health concerns nonetheless. Similar to obesity, types of diabetes, and other disorders.

    However, addiction should not itself be considered a crime issue, nor should drug usage. If drug usage is not criminal, then the selling of drugs should be legal, and so that also is not a criminal issue.
    This seems like circular reasoning.

    As for the behaviors in which addicts engage, if those behaviors are criminal, they are criminal according to their own merits; addiction is not relevant to that discussion. A robbery is not altered because the motive was money to buy drugs; a murder is not more heinous because it was in a drug frenzy.
    I agree.

    In all cases, addiction, drug consumption, and drug distribution should not be criminalized.
    I agree with the first two. The second one is dependent on other laws. It is illegal to sell alcohol to a 10 year-old. This is drug distribution and should be criminalized...which it is.
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    Re: Addiction: Crime or Health Issue

    I concur with Scarecrow.
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