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Thread: Addiction: Crime or Health Issue

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    Re: Addiction: Crime or Health Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    Unfortunately with many addicts the problem eventually lands right back on the taxpayers' shoulders anyway. My uncle was an Ivy-league educated man who ended up drinking himself to death. The family could only do so much, short of having him committed I suppose, which wasn't an option until the very sad end of many problematic years. His private health insurance covered his hospitalizations up to a point... but after numerous legal, financial, and an onslaught of related health issues... he ended up on medicaid and Social Security in the end.
    See?

    An excellent argument for the termination of Medicaid and Socialist Security if I ever saw one.

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    Re: Addiction: Crime or Health Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    See?

    An excellent argument for the termination of Medicaid and Socialist Security if I ever saw one.
    Perhaps... but then, without these programs many of these addicts would end up on the streets or in jail. So back on the taxpayers' dime one way or the other. Which has been my argument from the start.

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    Re: Addiction: Crime or Health Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    Perhaps... but then, without these programs many of these addicts would end up on the streets or in jail. So back on the taxpayers' dime one way or the other. Which has been my argument from the start.
    The streets are free.

    Jail is their choice if they choose to do a crime.

    They'll be in jail because they committed a crime, not because they're drug addicts.

    Let's do as much as possible to make sure American jails consume the least amount of money possible, by making them as uncomfortable as possible. It's pointless to argue that just because the little scumbags will wind up sucking off the public tit one way or another we should be nice to them.

    Screw that, they can detox behind bars and whacking weeds along the interstate. If some of them die in that detox process, it's their choice, isn't it, as the ultimate fate junkies usually reach eventually.

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    Re: Addiction: Crime or Health Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    The streets are free.
    If they were left on the streets, that would be true. But most urban areas pay for "homeless shelters." Probably less expensive than jails. But on the taxpayer dime all the same. The taxpayer cost for 'homeless' in New York City alone is staggering:

    Spending for homelessness driven by shelter needs. In the
    1980s, the city entered into a number of consent decrees that
    established a “right to shelter” for homeless single adults; this
    right was later extended to families. DHS is responsible for
    complying with these decrees by providing emergency shelter
    for anyone who requests it, and who is without other housing
    options. In 2001, DHS spent $476 million; this year’s budget
    (fiscal year 2002) is currently $531 million—up $34 million
    from the amount adopted in June.
    NYC Budget Analysis, 2001


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    mad Acai Berry

    There are many different types of drug abuse. These have traditionally been divided based on the action on the brain, chemical salt or the purpose for which it is used medically or socially.Acai Berry

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    Re: Addiction: Crime or Health Issue

    My god.. first my hotmail account gets spammed literally daily for this acai-berry crap, but now threads here are too??!!

    go away.

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    Re: Addiction: Crime or Health Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    If they were left on the streets, that would be true. But most urban areas pay for "homeless shelters."
    They shouldn't do that. What are charities for?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    Probably less expensive than jails.
    And less moral. If someone wants to support a "shelter", he can donate his own money as his own choice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    But on the taxpayer dime all the same.
    See how wrong it is forcing people to pay for that kind of crap? They then have less money to take care of their own families.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    The taxpayer cost for 'homeless' in New York City alone is staggering:

    NYC Budget Analysis, 2001

    Shouldn't be financed by public taxation. How hard is that to understand?

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    Re: Addiction: Crime or Health Issue

    I'm addicted to Crime.

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    Re: Addiction: Crime or Health Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Shouldn't be financed by public taxation. How hard is that to understand?
    I guess it depends on your perspective. When I lived in downtown Washington DC I really didn't care how much taxpayer dollars were spent getting addicts and alcoholics off my doorstep... I just wanted them gone. Period. And it was my opinion then that our police force would be better spent dragging these bums away than by issuing traffic and parking tickets.

    I'm now in a nice quiet suburb and we don't have a 'homeless' problem.


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    Re: Addiction: Crime or Health Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    I guess it depends on your perspective. When I lived in downtown Washington DC I really didn't care how much taxpayer dollars were spent getting addicts and alcoholics off my doorstep... I just wanted them gone. Period. And it was my opinion then that our police force would be better spent dragging these bums away than by issuing traffic and parking tickets.

    I'm now in a nice quiet suburb and we don't have a 'homeless' problem.

    You're not even discussing the issue at hand.

    It is the job of the police to remove trespassers.

    We're discussing the funds wasted on "shelters" etc for these parasites that aren't trespassing or otherwise providing an excuse to move them on.

    Lancaster, CA has a charity that gives free one-way bus tickets to bums who claim to have family somewhere else. That's what charities are for, isn't it, the alleviation of the homeless problem in their own towns.

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