A world with one religion
A world with several religions
A world with no religion
That doesn't make sense to me. Can you explain why it requires a God to give your actions meaning?
God or no God your actions are of your own choosing.
And if you kill someone now, so what? Someone kills you, so what? Last time I checked God didn't swoop down from the sky and stop the holocaust, 9/11 and all other atrocities in this world. God or no God the situation doesn't change.You kill someone. So what?
Someone kills you. So what?
As I've said before, if there is no afterlife then life is even more precious because there I no magical God with an "undo" button.
On second thought, if I believe there is a God then I can kill people and cause harm indiscriminately because, afterall, God will set things right.
No. In a universe where everyting is temporary, nothing has meaning. Your actions carry no lasting consequence, good or bad.As I've said before, if there is no afterlife then life is even more precious because there I no magical God with an "undo" button.
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I don't believe in God and many things have great meaning and importance to me. Do you think I'm lying or delusional or inconsistant to have such a belief? If so, why?nothing has meaning.
Wrong, they can depending on ones beliefs. For example, one can argue that good and bad are in the eye of the beholder (subjective terms) instead of under strict ownership of some Gods unknowable rationale which is unknowable to us due to his omnipotence.Your actions carry no lasting consequence, good or bad.
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Many religions, because there is no reason to get rid of them
As part of continued arrogance of our species, we put the blame on the systems, rather than fault the people that are a part of them. This happens across a broad spectrum of topics, not just religion. The failings of capitalism, marxism, socialism, anarchism, liberals, conservatives, religions, football teams all have to do with the failings of the people that partake in these endeavors. Every system out there would work, if they could count on all people to behave and perform in a certain way. And thats why none of them work perfectly. It is our imperfections that are to blame for societies ills, rather than simply dismissing the problems as being caused by(religion, capitalism, conservatives etc...)
"Loyalty only matters when there's a hundred reasons not to be-" Gen. Mattis
- Religious belief is "blind" belief: While not every human is a deep religious thinker, a good many, perhaps even most, do spend some time contemplating the meanings and implications of their beliefs. On what basis can we generalize that religious belief necessitates the willing suspension of reason intimated by the words "believing blindly"?
- Religions require an afterlife: This is just wrong. Some belief systems, such as Buddhism, impute a belief in rebirth, rendering an "afterlife" meaningless. Most atheists that I have encountered positively reject the concept of an afterlife. If memory serves, the ancient Hebrew traditions did not include an afterlife (this is a recollection on my part, and so I beg everyone's pardon if I am mis-stating this). We need not believe in Heaven and Hell in order to believe.
- Lack of belief is preferable to "blind" belief: This normative position requires some exposition. One could easily argue that "blind" belief is better than lack of belief; even if one merely believes without contemplation or reflection, having a set of beliefs does much to guide and inform human motivations, and, outside of certain prejudices, "blind" belief is not incapable of motivating a person in socially positive directions.
- "No religion" is attainable within the human psyche: In my experience, man is, as I have noted, a religious animal. We believe in things; this is part of what it is to be human. If, as I believe is the case, we cannot "not believe", we cannot attain the position of "no religion."
For myself, even if "no religion" were attainable, I would not desire such a thing. Belief does most people good.
Importance to you does not equate to importance, it only equates to importance to you. You are temproary, and so any importance you place on something ends when you end.
In other words: any statement of importance you might make -- so what?
If you (however you want to define you) ceases to exist when you die, then there is no lasting consequece for anything you do. Whatever penalty you may suffer for what you do is temproary, just as you are.
You kill someone. So what?
Someone kills you. So what?
No matter what happens, you wind up the same.
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If 5,000 years, then the Pyramids
If 50,000 years, then civilization
The more advanced man influences the less advanced..or he tries to..
This does not mean that the Christian missionaries were more advanced, in truth, they could have been more backward than those they were trying to convert...
Things must have a meaning, otherwise, why exist ?
I favor COMPLETE separation of church and state, with criminal penalties for either church or govt leaders who try to combine the two...
Oracle of Utah
Truth rings hollow in empty heads.