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Thread: Which religious situation would you prefer?

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    Re: Which religious situation would you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    None of those. While every major culture does have a major flood story, virtually none of them have more than a few details in common. The Chinese flood stories involve flooding from various rivers and many people survived not to mention why the Gods did it was vastly different. Historically, we know that the area around the black sea did have a massive flood and the earliest flood story of note, the Epic of Gilgamesh is believed to have mutated into the Enuma Elish and eventually got into the Torah as traders from the north moved down into what is now Israel.

    The actual evidence for a global flood is absolutely nil. Furthermore, every push to prove a global flood comes up short and often results in even more problems. Walleye tried to argue it by citing a theory that its own creator states requires a miracle to deal with the extraordinary heat. The problem with compacting a global flood into 6,000~4,000 years ago is primarily the resulting heat. The Bible itself kills all life by stating the waters came from within the Earth. Releasing trillions of cubic meters of superheated water instantly will poach virtually all life.
    from within the earth does not necessarily equate to super heated water...most springs put out cold water, and they are certainly from within the earth.

    most of those OT stories are sensationalized fiction, or exaggerations of some minor event blown out of proportion....
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    Re: Which religious situation would you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    from within the earth does not necessarily equate to super heated water...most springs put out cold water, and they are certainly from within the earth.
    Perhaps, but not when you consider the sheer amount of water not to mention it specifically states "fountains of the deep." No spring system can contain trillions of cubic meters of water under sufficient pressure to shoot miles into the air upon release. The only place where that can occur is within the mantle. And that's superheated water. This is of course lost on most YECs who are quite frankly, dumb as bricks.

    most of those OT stories are sensationalized fiction, or exaggerations of some minor event blown out of proportion....
    No question. Thousands of years of passing oral traditions down will lead to massive exaggerations.
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    Re: Which religious situation would you prefer?

    The only acceptable answer is a world with multiple religions. Both one religion and no religion are too strict in so far as "limiting" human thought.

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    Re: Which religious situation would you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    The only acceptable answer is a world with multiple religions. Both one religion and no religion are too strict in so far as "limiting" human thought.
    makes good sense....
    It would be even better if a common thread among them all is that freedom of thought is allowed by all, that no one religion tried to insist that they have the only true path to God....
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    Re: Which religious situation would you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    The only acceptable answer is a world with multiple religions. Both one religion and no religion are too strict in so far as "limiting" human thought.
    My logic in creating this thread was this:

    A world with no religion is not necessarily a world in which religion is outlawed, but a world in which religion never existed.


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    Re: Which religious situation would you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    My logic in creating this thread was this:

    A world with no religion is not necessarily a world in which religion is outlawed, but a world in which religion never existed.
    Still that would be a world where no peoples were creative enough to entertain ideas about our existence, our creation, our purpose, and our immortality in some form or shape. That's a fairly limited world. Unless you allow for Gods to be exchanged for aliens or the word God just replaced with other words describing similar metaphysical theories. Humans have a creative thoughtful philosophical essence that sorta goes hand in hand with a variety of religious beliefs.

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    Re: Which religious situation would you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    My logic in creating this thread was this:

    A world with no religion is not necessarily a world in which religion is outlawed, but a world in which religion never existed.
    I was simply envisioning a world in which the large majority of people finally woke up and realized what religion was, a process of communication between the subconscious and the conscious minds, not a mystic pathway to real-world secret knowledge.

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    Re: Which religious situation would you prefer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    I was simply envisioning a world in which the large majority of people finally woke up and realized what religion was, a process of communication between the subconscious and the conscious minds, not a mystic pathway to real-world secret knowledge.
    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Still that would be a world where no peoples were creative enough to entertain ideas about our existence, our creation, our purpose, and our immortality in some form or shape. That's a fairly limited world. Unless you allow for Gods to be exchanged for aliens or the word God just replaced with other words describing similar metaphysical theories. Humans have a creative thoughtful philosophical essence that sorta goes hand in hand with a variety of religious beliefs.

    Oh ok, I think I understand now. That makes sense.

    I guess the want to have a world with no religion comes from the conflicts that come with it, not necessarily the idea of religion itself. But then again, the fact that there are conflicts with religion just shows how thoughtful and opinionated humans are, I suppose.


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