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    Re: Medical Marijuana, will it be misused ?

    Would it be more beneficial for society to keep Marijuana illegal or to just legalize it? What benefits are there for it being illegal ? Yes it's bad for you, but so are a lot of things (listening to Rush Limbaugh for example). I think the failed attempts to stamp out weed usage are far more costly to society than the use of it ever would be.
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    Re: Medical Marijuana, will it be misused ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dogger807 View Post
    Would it be more beneficial for society to keep Marijuana illegal or to just legalize it? What benefits are there for it being illegal ? Yes it's bad for you, but so are a lot of things (listening to Rush Limbaugh for example). I think the failed attempts to stamp out weed usage are far more costly to society than the use of it ever would be.
    I think offering Medical Marijuana is kind of legalizing it in indirect way, they cant legalize it explicitly one-time .

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    I think medicalizing marijuana was the biggest detriment to actual legislation towards legalizing the substance and is the total wrong pro-drug argument. If you're going to have a pro-drug argument start the argument where it should start:

    1. The federal government should not have the right to ban the sale of any good in the united states, and is totally unconstitutional stripping Americans and states of there rights to exercise the rights bestowed upon them by the founders.

    Stop trying to parade little jimmy with glaucoma on the pedestal while you and your buddies are running the cannabis club down the street throwing parties for people who are supposed to have medical problems.

    Alright you want to use marijuana as a recreational drug to smoke to relax, that's fine but don't give me this bull**** about how people that have these terminal cancers are using marijuana to get by. When you know and I know that is less than 1% of the people who are actually prescribed the "medical cannabis".

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    Re: Medical Marijuana, will it be misused ?

    Quote Originally Posted by thabigred View Post
    I think medicalizing marijuana was the biggest detriment to actual legislation towards legalizing the substance and is the total wrong pro-drug argument. If you're going to have a pro-drug argument start the argument where it should start:

    1. The federal government should not have the right to ban the sale of any good in the united states, and is totally unconstitutional stripping Americans and states of there rights to exercise the rights bestowed upon them by the founders.

    Stop trying to parade little jimmy with glaucoma on the pedestal while you and your buddies are running the cannabis club down the street throwing parties for people who are supposed to have medical problems.

    Alright you want to use marijuana as a recreational drug to smoke to relax, that's fine but don't give me this bull**** about how people that have these terminal cancers are using marijuana to get by. When you know and I know that is less than 1% of the people who are actually prescribed the "medical cannabis".
    You might be right. After looking into it, I still wonders .. Whats the difference , Renaming the term "Marijuana" ? For what ?

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    Re: Medical Marijuana, will it be misused ?

    Quote Originally Posted by thabigred View Post
    I think medicalizing marijuana was the biggest detriment to actual legislation towards legalizing the substance and is the total wrong pro-drug argument. If you're going to have a pro-drug argument start the argument where it should start:

    1. The federal government should not have the right to ban the sale of any good in the united states, and is totally unconstitutional stripping Americans and states of there rights to exercise the rights bestowed upon them by the founders.

    Stop trying to parade little jimmy with glaucoma on the pedestal while you and your buddies are running the cannabis club down the street throwing parties for people who are supposed to have medical problems.

    Alright you want to use marijuana as a recreational drug to smoke to relax, that's fine but don't give me this bull**** about how people that have these terminal cancers are using marijuana to get by. When you know and I know that is less than 1% of the people who are actually prescribed the "medical cannabis".
    You might be right. After looking into it, I wonder why adding the term "Medical" to cannabis if they are all the same ?

    I'd read an article about legalizing California's government for the "Medical Marijuana" . . Half a minute I'd read a post about the uses of marijuana as a medicine without mentioning the term "Medical" !!!

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    Re: Medical Marijuana, will it be misused ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed Shaheen View Post
    You might be right. After looking into it, I still wonders .. Whats the difference , Renaming the term "Marijuana" ? For what ?


    They medicalized liquor during prohibition, it's just alcoholics are much more ornery than stoner's at not allowing the ruling elite to **** them out of there liquor while stoner's are content with taking all 18 inchs of the law in the ass for there habits.

    The supreme court will never own up to enacting an unconstitutional clause in 10th amendment that totally contradicts the rest of the amendment. The Amendment states the federal government does not have the ability to restrict the states rights to delegate on an issue, then they come out during FDR's term and add a commerce clause that allows federal government the ability to restrict the sale or possession of any good. Every drug law in this country is held together by that ****ing commerce clause that totally contradicts the rest of the amendment. It's a ****ing travesty that nobody has tried the supreme court on the reasoning why that amendment is even in place.

    Not even on a drug legalization level, but on a moral level to our total working our governance, it ****ing kills me inside.

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    Re: Medical Marijuana, will it be misused ?

    Quote Originally Posted by thabigred View Post


    They medicalized liquor during prohibition, it's just alcoholics are much more ornery than stoner's at not allowing the ruling elite to **** them out of there liquor while stoner's are content with taking all 18 inchs of the law in the ass for there habits.

    The supreme court will never own up to enacting an unconstitutional clause in 10th amendment that totally contradicts the rest of the amendment. The Amendment states the federal government does not have the ability to restrict the states rights to delegate on an issue, then they come out during FDR's term and add a commerce clause that allows federal government the ability to restrict the sale or possession of any good. Every drug law in this country is held together by that ****ing commerce clause that totally contradicts the rest of the amendment. It's a ****ing travesty that nobody has tried the supreme court on the reasoning why that amendment is even in place.

    Not even on a drug legalization level, but on a moral level to our total working our governance, it ****ing kills me inside.
    Actually, I dont see whats wrong with the federal government ?
    As I dont see any reason of adding that clause which allows the federal government to restrict any good in any way. I'd heard that the federal government got the right to restrict guns ownership among citizens, but dont know, how will that affect if the order is coming from either the supreme court or the federal government.

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    Re: Medical Marijuana, will it be misused ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed Shaheen View Post
    Actually, I dont see whats wrong with the federal government ?
    As I dont see any reason of adding that clause which allows the federal government to restrict any good in any way. I'd heard that the federal government got the right to restrict guns ownership among citizens, but dont know, how will that affect if the order is coming from either the supreme court or the federal government.
    America is so large and diverse, the founders set up the ability for states to decide for themselves what they thought was ok. Many states in America if devided into countries would rival most of the world economy by themselves. California for example even with recent problems has the 8th largest economy in the world.

    California wants to legalize cannabis, but because of a clause that stripped them of this right to delegate on this issue, there efforts are a big waste of time. Unless the supreme court amends the constitution of the commerce clause in the 10th Amendment or Obama/Congress changes the way the DEA perceives cannabis, they are just blowing a bunch of smoke around. At the moment the people in the states votes do not count, even though they are the most populated state.

    Restricing states rights in this way is what will drive states out of our Union, which is what the founders feared, eventually it will happen if the federal government continues to gain power over the states rights.

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    Re: Medical Marijuana, will it be misused ?

    Quote Originally Posted by thabigred View Post
    America is so large and diverse, the founders set up the ability for states to decide for themselves what they thought was ok. Many states in America if devided into countries would rival most of the world economy by themselves. California for example even with recent problems has the 8th largest economy in the world.

    California wants to legalize cannabis, but because of a clause that stripped them of this right to delegate on this issue, there efforts are a big waste of time. Unless the supreme court amends the constitution of the commerce clause in the 10th Amendment or Obama/Congress changes the way the DEA perceives cannabis, they are just blowing a bunch of smoke around. At the moment the people in the states votes do not count, even though they are the most populated state.

    Restricing states rights in this way is what will drive states out of our Union, which is what the founders feared, eventually it will happen if the federal government continues to gain power over the states rights.
    Federal law is over State's law, if California recognized that why dont the ask for a permission from the supreme court for the legalization and get free from this "Federal" headache ?

    Another point, why are you acting like if that the Federal government is kind of alliens who are trying to get in your business, I think both of the supreme court and the federal government aims for public interest

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    Re: Medical Marijuana, will it be misused ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed Shaheen View Post
    Federal law is over State's law, if California recognized that why dont the ask for a permission from the supreme court for the legalization and get free from this "Federal" headache ?

    Another point, why are you acting like if that the Federal government is kind of alliens who are trying to get in your business, I think both of the supreme court and the federal government aims for public interest
    Federal government is supposed to have limitations to what they can restrict states to do, as long as a states is not mistreating population the federal government is supposed to stay out of their business. Much like how the EU stays out of individual countries business. The EU is more like the United States of Europe, think of that analogy when you think of American governance.

    The federal government are aliens, they are a few men in seats half way across the country that make decisions about how I should live my life, yes they do things more often than not in my favor positively, but very many times they act in ways that are very negative. They are very short sided in some of there actions.

    The original clause I speak of was meant to boost trade during the great depression, it has been proven now that restricting the sale of foreign goods in America actually prolonged the depression another 6-8 years. It is an abomination, and I have no way as a citizen to challenge this law in the book. Later on the clause was used to restrict the sale of drugs, which Nixon used because he was scared the counter culture would spread across America.

    I understand why Nixon did this, even Hunter S Thomas the famous hippy journalist noticed the counter culture created a generation of dead beats, degenerates and so on. He acted hastily to the drug problem in the united states, instead of trying to regulate it like what he should had done he created a all out drug war which is a failure which we throw millions to each year. If he had regulated marijuana, and eliminated the black market, we wouldn't be in this mess now.

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