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Thread: I Think Democrats Should Push All Out For This One.

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    Re: I Think Democrats Should Push All Out For This One.

    I guess there are probably a lot of michael jacksons out there. still it's weird to see things like this

    "Michael Jackson is a smart guy," and his idea deserves to be considered

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    Re: I Think Democrats Should Push All Out For This One.

    Of course there should be gasoline taxes. Gasoline consumption (and more generally, oil consumption) has all sorts of negative externalities: Pollution, terrorism, the weakening of American geopolitical strength and the empowering of our enemies, etc.

    The people who are most responsible for those externalities should most certainly have to pay for them, instead of passing the burden off to the American public as a whole. A gasoline tax is simple and requires no government bureaucracy; it would use market forces to dissuade people from consuming as much gasoline as they currently do.
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    Re: I Think Democrats Should Push All Out For This One.

    The GM spokesman also stated he thinks this tax should take affect on the same day the Volt launches
    You down with TPP?

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    Re: I Think Democrats Should Push All Out For This One.

    This would be a wonderful way to destroy what is left of the economy.

    (/irony)


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    Re: I Think Democrats Should Push All Out For This One.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post

    A gasoline tax is simple and requires no government bureaucracy; it would use market forces to dissuade people from consuming as much gasoline as they currently do.
    Supply should be the determining factor, not taxation.
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    Re: I Think Democrats Should Push All Out For This One.

    I think they should push for it as well. Democrats will shoot themselves in the foot over this issue. Count on it.
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    Re: I Think Democrats Should Push All Out For This One.

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    Supply should be the determining factor, not taxation.
    Why? Supply doesn't take into account the pollution from YOUR car going into MY lungs. It doesn't take into account MY gasoline consumption funding terrorism in the Middle East, to which the United States then has to devote tax dollars to fight. It doesn't take into account the weakening of the United States and the strengthening of Russia.

    These are public problems, not individual problems. As such, the cost of gasoline should reflect those costs.
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    Re: I Think Democrats Should Push All Out For This One.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Why? Supply doesn't take into account the pollution from YOUR car going into MY lungs. It doesn't take into account MY gasoline consumption funding terrorism in the Middle East, to which the United States then has to devote tax dollars to fight. It doesn't take into account the weakening of the United States and the strengthening of Russia.

    These are public problems, not individual problems. As such, the cost of gasoline should reflect those costs.
    Why do you guys always want to make other people pay to assuage your self-flagellating guilt over something or other? Invent a high performance sports car that runs on whining and bitching. The world has an endless supply of that.


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    Re: I Think Democrats Should Push All Out For This One.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    The people who are most responsible for those externalities should most certainly have to pay for them, instead of passing the burden off to the American public as a whole.
    That there is vying for weirdest post ever.

    EVERYONE in America benefits from the sale and use of gasoline, either directly as a fuel for their transport, or as fuel for the transport of their goods and services.

    So when you're saying the people "responsible" for those "externalities", do you mean we should tax terrorism, or do you mean you support that fuel tax....but that means, of course, "passing the burden off to the American public as a whole"....because the American public as a whole is consuming the gas.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    A gasoline tax is simple and requires no government bureaucracy; it would use market forces to dissuade people from consuming as much gasoline as they currently do.
    No. It wouldn't use market force to dissuade people from buying gas, it would bend the market out of shape. Not to mention that it would crash the economy and make crawling out of this recession impossible.

    I still wouldn't buy GM.

    I'm never buying a GM car again.

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    Re: I Think Democrats Should Push All Out For This One.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Why? Supply doesn't take into account the pollution from YOUR car going into MY lungs. It doesn't take into account MY gasoline consumption funding terrorism in the Middle East, to which the United States then has to devote tax dollars to fight. It doesn't take into account the weakening of the United States and the strengthening of Russia.

    These are public problems, not individual problems. As such, the cost of gasoline should reflect those costs.
    The answer to US dollars going to fund terrorists in Russia and the Middle East is easy.

    Drill here, drill now, drill fast.

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