Oracle of Utah
Truth rings hollow in empty heads.
I think the drug laws are stupid. I also think those who use street drugs are either stupid or have a problem.As such, I don't get why you separate out certain people who like the way it makes them feel 'this' from others who like the way it makes them feel 'that'. Drinking alcohol is drinking alcohol, smoking pot is smoking pot, drinking coffee is drinking coffee, taking pain meds is taking pain meds. Reasons for doing it are quite irrelevant.
As you should. And you should do the same with other drugs too.
As is your prerogative. I wouldn't give a **** if you said you only hire white people with red hair. That would be your prerogative, as far as I'm concerned. But don't pretend it's because you really think one group is somehow smarter than the other. At least be honest about your reasons for discrimination and that they're based on stereotypes and ignorance.
Well you have every right to think that, even if it's flat out wrong.I think the drug laws are stupid. I also think those who use street drugs are either stupid or have a problem.
They are no more "stupid" and have no more of a "problem" than anyone else who uses legal drugs.
When I worked for PeteLien&Sons as a forklift operator, we were allowed to come to our shift or back from lunch with a little booze on our breath. As long as we were never impaired (legally drunk) we were good to go.
We weren't allowed to drink on shift, but I soon learned that was because of the chemical hazard and distraction of actually taking a swig while you had a load in the air than consuming alcohol while operation equipment.
Now smoking was another issue.
Sure no one was allowed to smoke on the grounds (there were no "designated smoking arias" either) due to flammable chemicals, but they flat-out would not higher anyone who admitted to smoking within the last 10 years. If they found out you lied or if you took up smoking, even if only at home, you were fired on-the-spot.
The reason being heath care costs. The company did not want to have to pay it's contribution of a smoker's health care policy.
As for pre-employment drug screening: OSHA requires potential employees of certain professions to undergo a full physical. In my case, my job required me to use a respirator as well as various tools and equipment which could cause chronic injury, so I got the physical and the blood work that came with it, including a drug screening.
PeteLein&Sons never did random testing while I was there, though, precisely because random testing creates distrust. I admire their safety incentive programs and their swift action when an occasional accident did occur.
I learned from them that it's more important to have a corporate culture where everyone supports everyone else being safe then to threaten an anvil dropping on anyone who violate the letter of the policy.
Last edited by Jerry; 04-07-09 at 07:05 PM.
this post (Drug Testing), which was a response to you.
Rivrrat also shares my views and gave her own explanation of the hypocricy in this post (Drug Testing), which was also a response to you.
Did you just miss those posts?
Last edited by Binary_Digit; 04-07-09 at 07:44 PM.
The definition of 'hypocrisy' is, basically, preaching one thing while doing another. It would be hypocritical, for example, if a company said they allowed no drug use but then did, in fact, hire known drug users.
To target one illegal activity but not others is not hypocritical. It's discriminatory. Two very different things.
You may or may not believe that companies should discriminate between drug use or speeding tickets. But doing so does not make them hypocrites.