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Thread: Should the federal government get to decide how universities are run?

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    Re: Should the federal government get to decide how universities are run?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Because you are a conservative. Dont deny it by hiding behind that "libertarian" bs label

    Considering that several high ranking people in the former Bush administration came from universities that did teach based on scriptures and other religious garble instead of actual facts and figures, then one has to ask if not having at least some control over the quality of the curriculum regardless if private or public is not better.

    I mean we cant have universities go around teaching doctors that giving blood is bad, or that evolution is wrong, or that the earth is only 8000 years old...... What is next, universities promoting women as second class citizens, people of colour as "unclean" or saying that Jews are the devils minions?
    And you are liberal...don't deny it by hiding behind the "centrist" label.

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    Re: Should the federal government get to decide how universities are run?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Because you are a conservative. Dont deny it by hiding behind that "libertarian" bs label
    My friend I have made it pretty aparent that I don't hold any of my brothers of Europe any ill will as others that are labeled conservative do.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Considering that several high ranking people in the former Bush administration came from universities that did teach based on scriptures and other religious garble instead of actual facts and figures, then one has to ask if not having at least some control over the quality of the curriculum regardless if private or public is not better.
    It is their loss if they believe nonsense, when they encounter the real world I hope to see them reject all that science has brought us.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    I mean we cant have universities go around teaching doctors that giving blood is bad, or that evolution is wrong, or that the earth is only 8000 years old...... What is next, universities promoting women as second class citizens, people of colour as "unclean" or saying that Jews are the devils minions?
    This has happened under government universities as well at least some of it.

    There is no perfect solution, government in its current form has influence to promote itself in favorable light inside institutions of education when it hasn't necessarily been good.
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    Re: Should the federal government get to decide how universities are run?

    I can see possible state involvement in education but, not the federal government.
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    Re: Should the federal government get to decide how universities are run?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Because you are a conservative. Dont deny it by hiding behind that "libertarian" bs label
    Because you are a liberal? Dont deny it by hiding behind that "centrist" bs label?

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    Re: Should the federal government get to decide how universities are run?

    If the Government knows what is best for it, then it should probably stay out of University affairs. Someone once told me that all revolutions begin with higher education.
    Is the Government's influence in a University ethical? Meh, probably not. Is it how "the cookie crumbles?" Probably.
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    Re: Should the federal government get to decide how universities are run?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    And you are liberal...don't deny it by hiding behind the "centrist" label.
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    Re: Should the federal government get to decide how universities are run?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Unlike certain private "conservative religious" schools that are no better than a religious madras in Pakistan... guess you got no problem with those?
    I'm struggling to see a way in which this relates to the topic and I can't find one. Please stay on point.
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    Re: Should the federal government get to decide how universities are run?

    Depends on how much federal government money the university receives. If they receive even one dollar from the federal government like so many universities do. Then I do not see why the federal government should have a say in what they do. How many universities are completely funded by private donors? Those creepy ultra christian ones where everybody dresses in 1984 uniforms?
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    Re: Should the federal government get to decide how universities are run?

    "Decide how universities are run" is a vague concept, and to a degree the answer must be yes. The Fed does and should ensure that the university doesn't reject all Jews or things along those lines. On the whole, though, college education isn't an area that needs a whole lot or regulation, and as such should be relatively unregulated.

    Now to get at what you're really talking about, if the fed offers the uni money that comes with a clause that states "the dean will make $x" and they accept that money, then yes, the federal government should decide how much the dean makes

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    Re: Should the federal government get to decide how universities are run?

    They receive taxpayer money in violation of the Constitution.

    The government may as well insist the socialist professors demanding the government take over everything receive government pay scale, right? Those same perfessers want the goverment to violate the Constitution for everything else, so why not?

    Let's put it this way...the government taking over won't be able to decrease the quality of education those students are getting.

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