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    Re: Should junkies be considered disabled and afforded the same rights as real disabl

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    I think anyone who entertains the idea to consider junkies as apart of the actual disabled is a complete idiot. People are disabled because of some unfortunate event that happened in their lives. A junkie destroys his/her body willingly there shouldn't even be a comparison.
    An unfortunate event. Right. I consider skiing to be a really dangerous sport where one gambles with their life by going down a huge mountain. If somebody breaks their legs doing it then I don't think they should be considered disabled. Likewise you consider doing drugs to be an activity where one gambles with their life. Yet you don't consider those who end up in the worst situation related to drug use(addiction) to be considered disabled even though in both cases the individuals are taking risks with their lives. Why?
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    Re: Should junkies be considered disabled and afforded the same rights as real disabl

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Well...first of all, the entire premise of this thread is wrong....but who would have thought FoxNews might report false information?

    Being a drug addict is not considered a "disability" under California law.

    This is probably yet again another instance of Fauxnews twisting the facts.
    There are probably a lot of homeless drug addicts that have mental illnesses that constitute a disability. But being a drug addict in and of itself is not considered a disability.


    "Alcoholism and/or drug addiction are recognized disabilities under the law."


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    prove this wrong.


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    Re: Should junkies be considered disabled and afforded the same rights as real disabl

    this is old news guys you can already get SSDI payments for drug addiction
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: Should junkies be considered disabled and afforded the same rights as real disabl

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    I think anyone who entertains the idea to consider junkies as apart of the actual disabled is a complete idiot. People are disabled because of some unfortunate event that happened in their lives. A junkie destroys his/her body willingly there shouldn't even be a comparison.
    Hatuey has already pointed out the comparison with someone who becomes disabled from (for example) a ski accident which is also a question of choice.

    I answered "maybe" because some people are born junkies - they may be addicts simply because their birth mother kept taking drugs during gestation. Do we insult these kids in the same black and white way everyone has insulted "junkies" on this thread too?

    The world is not simply black and white with easy answers for every question out there I'm afraid.

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    Re: Should junkies be considered disabled and afforded the same rights as real disabl

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    An unfortunate event. Right. I consider skiing to be a really dangerous sport where one gambles with their life by going down a huge mountain. If somebody breaks their legs doing it then I don't think they should be considered disabled. Likewise you consider doing drugs to be an activity where one gambles with their life. Yet you don't consider those who end up in the worst situation related to drug use(addiction) to be considered disabled even though in both cases the individuals are taking risks with their lives. Why?
    People on drugs are more likely to vote for Democrats?

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    Re: Should junkies be considered disabled and afforded the same rights as real disabl

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    Hatuey has already pointed out the comparison with someone who becomes disabled from (for example) a ski accident which is also a question of choice.

    I answered "maybe" because some people are born junkies - they may be addicts simply because their birth mother kept taking drugs during gestation. Do we insult these kids in the same black and white way everyone has insulted "junkies" on this thread too?

    The world is not simply black and white with easy answers for every question out there I'm afraid.
    The ultimate question pertaining to this thread is:

    Should the general population be taxed to provide a living for disabled persons?

    The answer options are:

    Yes.
    No.

    The correct answer is: No.

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    Re: Should junkies be considered disabled and afforded the same rights as real disabl

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    People on drugs are more likely to vote for Democrats?
    Wow....alright Mr. Independent.
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    Re: Should junkies be considered disabled and afforded the same rights as real disabl

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    --Should the general population be taxed to provide a living for disabled persons?
    From what I've read, that psyche goes back as far as the American Revolution - historically Americans seem to dislike the idea of paying taxes more than most. It seems to form the root of republicanism and so has no real grounds in ideology.

    That doesn't make your answer correct any more than a European or Oceanian nation that decides that nations are judged by how they treat the weakest members of society. You have your traditions - we have ours.

    Your "correct answer" is no more correct than my "correct answer" which is that society has an obligation to ensure that the weakest (genuinely disabled) people are able to contribute to soceity with dignity and with equality.

    You will no doubt attempt to rebutt by saying I am a Liberal or a Democrat or whatever - I am simply "not an American" and there are other opinions and voices in this world.

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    Re: Should junkies be considered disabled and afforded the same rights as real disabl

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    From what I've read, that psyche goes back as far as the American Revolution - historically Americans seem to dislike the idea of paying taxes more than most. It seems to form the root of republicanism and so has no real grounds in ideology.
    Untrue.

    My obligations are defined by my choices and actions. If I'm not in any way responsible for the disability someone suffers, I'm not in any way liable for his care and support.

    That socialist contract nonsense Rousseau babbled about? Bunk.

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    That doesn't make your answer correct any more than a European or Oceanian nation that decides that nations are judged by how they treat the weakest members of society. You have your traditions - we have ours.
    No.

    My answer respects the freedom of the individual to make choices in his life. That's the right way to do things.

    The IngSoc traditions of Europe puts a gun in a man's face and says, "we most respectfully request your most compassionate consideration of support for this most unfortunate handicapped person."

    That's just wrong. It's not "morally equivalent" to freedom, it's just wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    Your "correct answer" is no more correct than my "correct answer" which is that society has an obligation to ensure that the weakest (genuinely disabled) people are able to contribute to soceity with dignity and with equality.
    No. Your answer is not correct, since it's dependent upon the use of violence, threats of violence, and other matters of coercion to compel compliance with the dictates of the mob.

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    You will no doubt attempt to rebutt by saying I am a Liberal or a Democrat or whatever - I am simply "not an American" and there are other opinions and voices in this world.
    No. I just rebutted your argument by showing you where you're hiding the machine guns.

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    Re: Should junkies be considered disabled and afforded the same rights as real disabl

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Should junkies be considered disabled and afforded the same rights/protections as actual disabled people?


    I saw a story on FOX news on how newport beach was enacting some ordinance to requiring drug treatment homes/sober homes to file for permits and they mentioned that in California that junkies are considered disabled.

    I say hell no,junkies should not be considered disabled, willfully taking an addictive substance should not get you disabled status.Even if you are no longer a junky you still should not be considered disabled. If a employer does not want to hire someone with a drug habit or who has had a drug habit then that is the employer's business.junky
    Absolutely not! Ship all drugies and habitual law breakers to an island off the mainland.

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