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    Corporate/White Collar Crime

    Im sure most of you are aware the sentence that Madoff has gotten. My question is this with the well deserving sentence that he got is the era of soft treatment of Corporate/White Collar Criminals over?
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    Re: Corporate/White Collar Crime

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Im sure most of you are aware the sentence that Madoff has gotten. My question is this with the well deserving sentence that he got is the era of soft treatment of Corporate/White Collar Criminals over?
    He hasn't been sentenced yet. Won't be for a couple months.
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    Re: Corporate/White Collar Crime

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    He hasn't been sentenced yet. Won't be for a couple months.
    Then where did I hear that he got twenty to life?
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    Re: Corporate/White Collar Crime

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Then where did I hear that he got twenty to life?
    I dunno? I tried looking at the news to see if I could find anything but not yet.

    The last I remember is that he has plead guilty and his sentence will be decided in a couple months.

    However they did revoke bail I think.
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    Re: Corporate/White Collar Crime

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Im sure most of you are aware the sentence that Madoff has gotten. My question is this with the well deserving sentence that he got is the era of soft treatment of Corporate/White Collar Criminals over?
    If I walked into a WalMart and stole $40 from the register my ass would be in jail.
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    Re: Corporate/White Collar Crime

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    If I walked into a WalMart and stole $40 from the register my ass would be in jail.
    That is pretty much the case. White collar criminals get a slap on the wrist even though they ruin people financially.

    I'd say the lower hanging fruit of the organizations usually become the sacrificial lambs if someone is prosecuted.

    Justice is bought more often then not now.
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    Re: Corporate/White Collar Crime

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Im sure most of you are aware the sentence that Madoff has gotten. My question is this with the well deserving sentence that he got is the era of soft treatment of Corporate/White Collar Criminals over?
    Of course it's not over. The outrageous ones like Madoff (and Skilling and Fastow from Enron) will always get lots of prison time, but your run-of-the-mill embezzler or fraudster is just as likely to run for office as he is to run from the cops--hell, in Illinois, you can't hold elective office until you learn how to properly give and take bribes.

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    Re: Corporate/White Collar Crime

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Of course it's not over. The outrageous ones like Madoff (and Skilling and Fastow from Enron) will always get lots of prison time, but your run-of-the-mill embezzler or fraudster is just as likely to run for office as he is to run from the cops--hell, in Illinois, you can't hold elective office until you learn how to properly give and take bribes.
    Are you sure about that? I thought, in ILL, you had to get elected first, then you were required to take bribes.

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    Re: Corporate/White Collar Crime

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Of course it's not over. The outrageous ones like Madoff (and Skilling and Fastow from Enron) will always get lots of prison time, but your run-of-the-mill embezzler or fraudster is just as likely to run for office as he is to run from the cops--hell, in Illinois, you can't hold elective office until you learn how to properly give and take bribes.
    Madoff may not get a lot of prison time though really.

    Do you think all of the money invested with him was just spent or vanished?

    There is some of it left and the feds will want his cooperation in finding it.
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    Re: Corporate/White Collar Crime

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Madoff may not get a lot of prison time though really.

    Do you think all of the money invested with him was just spent or vanished?

    There is some of it left and the feds will want his cooperation in finding it.
    True....and there is the sobering reality one really can't give a 70-year old man a lot of prison time, simply because of the high probability he will die of natural causes within the next 3-5 years.

    Which has me wondering what terminal condition is Madoff hiding that he's willing to be the sole fall guy? If he's got cancer or something that will kill him in the next 24 months, the guilty plea could keep the feds off balance until he's on the other side of the grass.

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