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To buy or not to buy...

Question: Should I get this or my daughter's birthday?


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YOU made the statement. I'm taking you task for it. Don't like it? Tough.

Remember that the topic here is specifically about me and the gun I might buy for my daughter. Your statement references me, specifically, as did the "that's sick' statement you responded to.

Show that I will not lock up my gun and that my daughter will have an accident, or retract your statement to that effect.

You are strawmanning me. You are misrepresenting my words. Quote my statements that you accuse me of making.

Threads drift. Sorry if I wasn't focused on you. Buy her the gun.

I don't think they should sell real guns painted like toys.
 
You are strawmanning me. You are misrepresenting my words. Quote my statements that you accuse me of making.
I did. Several times. In the context that they were made.

Threads drift. Sorry if I wasn't focused on you.
The thread didn't drift that far. -You- weren't paying attention.

But, I accept your apology for your error.
 
I'm not for banning the AR-15.
I don't know how many. What is your threshold?
Statistical significance.

There's no way to reduce accidents related to items in the modern world to 0;the only way to minimize accidents is to educate people to the dangers and give them the knowledge necessary to deal with those dangers.
 
I'm not for banning the AR-15.

I don't know how many. What is your threshold?

Deputy's child accidentally shoots himself in face : News : KRCG

4 year-old child accidentally shot by his father | Yahoo! News | Local Breaking News and Weather from AZFAMILY.COM & KTVK 3TV - Arizona's Family

2-Year-Old Boy Shoots Mother, Father Charged - wcco.com

There are many stories out there like these. Like a year ago there was a thread here about the 2 year old shooting and killing his father who was a police officer after he had taken his belt off and laid it on the table.

This one is really old, but interesting.

1914: Child accidentally shot by playmate | AspenTimes.com

if you could pull statistics ts for children deaths with linkin logs i am sure you could find a few.

How about power outlets, how many children have stuck objects into them and have died ... we can't ban power from houses if you have children.

just because a child could hurt him self, does not make owning a gun unsafe. Like i said earlier lots of things in a home could be considered unsafe.

Without a firearm in the home, you have no protection from criminal elements. The police are a reaction force, not a protection force.
 
if you could pull statistics ts for children deaths with linkin logs i am sure you could find a few.

How about power outlets, how many children have stuck objects into them and have died ... we can't ban power from houses if you have children.

just because a child could hurt him self, does not make owning a gun unsafe. Like i said earlier lots of things in a home could be considered unsafe.

Without a firearm in the home, you have no protection from criminal elements. The police are a reaction force, not a protection force.

Kids who choke on lincoln logs should have been supervised. Should power outlets look like toys?

I have no problem with people responsibly having a gun for home protection. A big dog will also buy you time to get your weapon and loaded.
 
How many more children would die from accidental shooting if all guns were painted like toys?

I don't have any studies to cite that children are more inclined to play with a gun painted like a toy over one that looks like an actual firearm.

Speculation

I think it's a dangerous thing to paint them that way. I know enough drunken hillbillies that don't practice gun safety. I see no need to add insult to injury so to speak. People may disagree with me.

That's okay too.


i think it is not smart either. but your hysteria over accidental shootings is unwarranted....

in 2004 there were 189 I believe. and that included suicides and cases of abuse.


tragic, but statistically nill.
 
Speculation




i think it is not smart either. but your hysteria over accidental shootings is unwarranted....

in 2004 there were 189 I believe. and that included suicides and cases of abuse.


tragic, but statistically nill.

Yes, I am being so hysterical. :roll:

How many civilian Americans were killed by terrorists on U.S. soil in 2004? Statistically nil.

How many would make it statistically significant enough for you?
 
Yes, I am being so hysterical. :roll:

How many civilian Americans were killed by terrorists on U.S. soil in 2004? Statistically nil.

How many would make it statistically significant enough for you?




949 died of drowning last year. Let's ban drowning.

Twice as many kids died from football than guns, Lets ban footbal.


yes you are being a little hysterical my friend.
 
949 died of drowning last year. Let's ban drowning.

Twice as many kids died from football than guns, Lets ban footbal.


yes you are being a little hysterical my friend.

You are being intellectually dishonest by calling me hysterical.

Do you think we should have hard liquor and cigarette ads on TV again?
 
You are being intellectually dishonest by calling me hysterical.


How is my opinion of your position being "intellectually dishonest"? I await your explanation, maybe we can all learn from this. Thanks!


Do you think we should have hard liquor and cigarette ads on TV again?


We have hard liquor ads on tv. ;)



Now should we ban Football?
 
How is my opinion of your position being "intellectually dishonest"? I await your explanation, maybe we can all learn from this. Thanks!

Which post am I being hysterical in? Thanks.



We have hard liquor ads on tv. ;)



Now should we ban Football?

We don't have hard liquor ads fully. Up to a certain percentage of alcohol they permit. Smirnoff Ice and Jack Daniels wine coolers aren't hard liquor.

No we shouldn't ban football. It is regulated with safety in mind though. ;)

Should we go back to leather helmets with no face masks like the founding fathers intended? :rofl
 
949 died of drowning last year. Let's ban drowning.

Twice as many kids died from football than guns, Lets ban footbal.


yes you are being a little hysterical my friend.

Typical of the ironic refusal of the gun lobby to accept responsibility for their firearms. If anything causes the banning of guns, it will be the gun owners' obstruction of reasonable firearms control.
 
Typical of the ironic refusal of the gun lobby to accept responsibility for their firearms. If anything causes the banning of guns, it will be the gun owners' obstruction of reasonable firearms control.
Another drive-by posting, eh?

If you're SO right on this issue, why don't you stand and actually debate, rather than spam and run?
 
Which post am I being hysterical in? Thanks.


Post 134, 125 that's as far back as I am willing to address this. How am I being "intellectually dishonest" Please explain 2nd request :2wave:



We don't have hard liquor ads fully. Up to a certain percentage of alcohol they permit. Smirnoff Ice and Jack Daniels wine coolers aren't hard liquor.

Got a little Captain in you? ;)


And yes we should allow hard liquor ads on tv, cigarettes to.

Legal products. Freedom is a bitch.


No we shouldn't ban football. It is regulated with safety in mind though. ;)

Should we go back to leather helmets with no face masks like the founding fathers intended? :rofl



But football even with all the saftey equipment has twice the deaths as being shot for kids.


What is your hypocritical logic behind your position. Thanks.
 
Typical of the ironic refusal of the gun lobby to accept responsibility for their firearms. If anything causes the banning of guns, it will be the gun owners' obstruction of reasonable firearms control.




What are you on about? :rofl
 
Another drive-by posting, eh?

If you're SO right on this issue, why don't you stand and actually debate, rather than spam and run?


Why don't you address the issue of gun owners demonstrating the least responsibility over the control of firearms?
 
Why don't you address the issue of gun owners demonstrating the least responsibility over the control of firearms?
That's your claim. Its for you to support.
Once you do that, I'll address it.
And then, you'll run away.
 
You are being intellectually dishonest by calling me hysterical.

Do you think we should have hard liquor and cigarette ads on TV again?
Yes, but not during prime time. I believe advertising is a paid form of expression and is therefore protected, if you don't want to drink or smoke the ads won't shouldn't have any sway on you.
 
Typical of the ironic refusal of the gun lobby to accept responsibility for their firearms. If anything causes the banning of guns, it will be the gun owners' obstruction of reasonable firearms control.
No, it will be sheepish morons giving other people's rights away.
 
Cuttest gun ever! I would say depending on her age and experience, buy it. I would even take the next step and get her some bad ass pink camouflage to match it. There is nothing worse than clashing with your accessories. ;)
 
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