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    Re: To buy or not to buy...

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    I took the time to explain my position in a mature and reasonable manner, and receive nothing but ridicule. **** you all.
    It is just a message board. Get over it.

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    Re: To buy or not to buy...

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    I took the time to explain my position in a mature and reasonable manner, and receive nothing but ridicule. **** you all.
    From me, you received a step-by-step refutal of your position and a details explanatuion as to why you're wrong.

    If you think you're position is sound, the thing for you to do now is to defend it.

    Instead, AS predicted, you're running away.

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    Re: To buy or not to buy...

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    I took the time to explain my position in a mature and reasonable manner, and receive nothing but ridicule. **** you all.
    yeah man, its the internet
    my smack was more a play on your word choice
    get over it and prove your point or concede defeat

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    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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    Re: To buy or not to buy...

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    I took the time to explain my position in a mature and reasonable manner, and receive nothing but ridicule. **** you all.
    "I'm yer huckleberry."


    You take the position that gun owners should lead the way in "responsibility" and then define "responsibility" as gun control laws; specifically those restricting ownership of certain types of weapons and so on.

    You follow by accusing pro-gunners of reactionary knee-jerk opposition to all gun control laws.


    It has been well established by innumerable studies and scholarly research that:
    A. Strict gun control invariably causes an increase in violent crime. (see DC, Chicago, NYC, etc. Even Britain experienced an increase in violent crime.)
    B. "Shall issue" (easily obtained) concealed carry laws invariably result in a decrease in violent crime in each state where they are enacted.

    The AWB demonstrably did not decrease that tiny fraction of a percent of violent crimes committed with so-called "assault weapons".

    In short, pre-emptive (ie taking it away from lawful citizens) gun control accomplishes nothing of any benefit, and typically makes things worse.

    On the other hand, putting violent criminals away and keeping them out of society most definately DOES. Also proven fact.

    So, if it is crime you're worried about, the type of control you need is CRIMINAL CONTROL. Not gun control. Hm, that makes a good slogan: "Control Criminals, not guns!"

    In the matter of how guns help safeguard liberty, you have been given half the answer: the arms of the colonists were their tool in freeing themselves from the oppression of King George III. If oppression reaches a similar point again, privately held arms will again be such a tool. I suspect that is why tyrants confiscate guns before revealing their full agenda (ie Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, etc). (Btw, there are so many Founders quotes supporting this position that it would take all day to read them all.)

    It comes down to this: YOU do not get to define what is "responsible" for everyone else. If a man commits a crime or an act of negligence with a firearm, hold him accountable for his actions; leave the rest of us alone.


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    Re: To buy or not to buy...

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I think folks we have an early leader for asshat of the year.
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    Re: To buy or not to buy...

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    I took the time to explain my position in a mature and reasonable manner, and receive nothing but ridicule. **** you all.
    Goobieman responded in depth, point-by-point; there was little left to add other than what I said, and what a few others did -- that your definition of "take responsibility" is flawed.

    So, for the most part, the responses were substantive and not "ridicule." Unless you think "ridicule" is "anything other than complete agreement"?
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    Re: To buy or not to buy...

    Quote Originally Posted by emdash View Post
    seriously, has your dad never given you a gun? it's how they show their love.

    he says daughter, since I can't give you height and upper body strength I want you to have this. if you don't want a dislocated shoulder listen carefully.

    my sibs and I all got bb guns before we were 10 anyway. mine was actually my dad's when he was a kid. good times.

    it's not a bad idea unless your kid's an idiot.

    I think this thread is a joke.
    I was being funny or trying to be funny

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