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Thread: To buy or not to buy...

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    Re: To buy or not to buy...

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    As I have repeatedly stated, and will state again for your dim comprehension:
    The firearms community are the experts on the functionality and responsibilities of gun ownership. They are intimately familiar with the use and maintenance of guns. It would be logical for firearms enthusiasts to take the lead in controlling who has access to weapons. Which guns are useful in sports, protection, hunting? Which guns have little use except for crime? Which weapons should be rigidly licensed for ownership only by collectors? How can we effectively trace firearms crimes through spent bullets and residue? What sort of screening processes would reduce the possibility of guns being sold to people who intend to use them for murder?

    One would think the gun community would take the lead in these efforts to control access to weapons capable of mass murder. One would be wrong. On the contrary, the gun community has a knee-jerk reaction to any mention of gun control. They all seem to assume it is a slippery slope which does not end until federal agents are at their doors demanding their personal guns.

    This is my position...that gun owners should take the lead in controlling firearms. Police departments are very vocal about gun control, but gun owners, led by the NRA, resist all legislation and oppose existing legislation. It is ridiculous to infer that guns should be confiscated, and no one is suggesting that. However, gun owners need to act responsibly, and help find a solution to the escalating pattern of violence that seems to have no end.



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    Re: To buy or not to buy...

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    As I have repeatedly stated, and will state again for your dim comprehension:
    The firearms community are the experts on the functionality and responsibilities of gun ownership. They are intimately familiar with the use and maintenance of guns. It would be logical for firearms enthusiasts to take the lead in controlling who has access to weapons. Which guns are useful in sports, protection, hunting? Which guns have little use except for crime? Which weapons should be rigidly licensed for ownership only by collectors? How can we effectively trace firearms crimes through spent bullets and residue? What sort of screening processes would reduce the possibility of guns being sold to people who intend to use them for murder?

    One would think the gun community would take the lead in these efforts to control access to weapons capable of mass murder. One would be wrong. On the contrary, the gun community has a knee-jerk reaction to any mention of gun control. They all seem to assume it is a slippery slope which does not end until federal agents are at their doors demanding their personal guns.

    This is my position...that gun owners should take the lead in controlling firearms. Police departments are very vocal about gun control, but gun owners, led by the NRA, resist all legislation and oppose existing legislation. It is ridiculous to infer that guns should be confiscated, and no one is suggesting that. However, gun owners need to act responsibly, and help find a solution to the escalating pattern of violence that seems to have no end.
    we do
    its called supporting The Right to Bear Arms

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    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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    Re: To buy or not to buy...

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    As I have repeatedly stated, and will state again for your dim comprehension:
    You're the wrong person to be talking about other peoples' 'dim comprehension'.

    The firearms community are the experts on the functionality and responsibilities of gun ownership
    Clearly.
    They are intimately familiar with the use and maintenance of guns.
    Clearly.
    Dont forget 'safe use and storage' as well.
    It would be logical for firearms enthusiasts to take the lead in controlling who has access to weapons.
    False premise. The firearms community is VERY active in this.
    That their activity doesnt manifest itself in a manner you agree with doesnt change that.
    Which guns are useful in sports, protection, hunting?
    As a member of the firearms comminuty, and an expert in your book:
    All of them.
    Which guns have little use except for crime?
    As a member of the firearms comminuty, and an expert in your book:
    None of them.
    Which weapons should be rigidly licensed for ownership only by collectors?
    As a member of the firearms comminuty, and an expert in your book:
    None of them.
    How can we effectively trace firearms crimes through spent bullets and residue?
    We've had this ability for a long time. Catch an episide of CSI.
    What sort of screening processes would reduce the possibility of guns being sold to people who intend to use them for murder?
    None that are not prohibited by the Constitution.
    One would think the gun community would take the lead in these efforts to control access to weapons capable of mass murder
    Again:The firearms community is VERY active in this.
    That their activity doesnt manifest itself in a manner you agree with doesnt change that.
    This is my position...that gun owners should take the lead in controlling firearms.
    3rd time:
    The firearms community is VERY active in this.
    That their activity doesnt manifest itself in a manner you agree with doesnt change that.

    Your entire position here is based on a false dichotomy -- that YOUR way is the only way someone can "take the lead in controlling firearms".

    And so, you have been proven wrong. You can run away now.

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    Re: To buy or not to buy...

    There were two possibilities.

    Either WillRockwell would ignore the question . . .

    Or he would answer it in a way which shows he has no idea what he's talking about. The "firearms community" is VERY responsible concerning the safe ownership of guns, and the promulgating of guidelines for the same. (Criminals don't care about any of that, but they are, by definition, outside that community.)

    He took the second, but I suppose that's gutsier than the first. So, kudos for that much.

    I'm waiting to see some "centrism" somewhere, though.
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    Re: To buy or not to buy...

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    As I have repeatedly stated, and will state again for your dim comprehension:
    The firearms community are the experts on the functionality and responsibilities of gun ownership. They are intimately familiar with the use and maintenance of guns. It would be logical for firearms enthusiasts to take the lead in controlling who has access to weapons. Which guns are useful in sports, protection, hunting? Which guns have little use except for crime? Which weapons should be rigidly licensed for ownership only by collectors? How can we effectively trace firearms crimes through spent bullets and residue? What sort of screening processes would reduce the possibility of guns being sold to people who intend to use them for murder?

    One would think the gun community would take the lead in these efforts to control access to weapons capable of mass murder. One would be wrong. On the contrary, the gun community has a knee-jerk reaction to any mention of gun control. They all seem to assume it is a slippery slope which does not end until federal agents are at their doors demanding their personal guns.

    This is my position...that gun owners should take the lead in controlling firearms. Police departments are very vocal about gun control, but gun owners, led by the NRA, resist all legislation and oppose existing legislation. It is ridiculous to infer that guns should be confiscated, and no one is suggesting that. However, gun owners need to act responsibly, and help find a solution to the escalating pattern of violence that seems to have no end.
    I think folks we have an early leader for asshat of the year.
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    Re: To buy or not to buy...

    vegas rule may be of concern here

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    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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    Re: To buy or not to buy...

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    vegas rule may be of concern here

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    Re: To buy or not to buy...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    La refering to AHOTY

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    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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    Re: To buy or not to buy...

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    La refering to AHOTY
    Roger roger

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    Re: To buy or not to buy...

    I took the time to explain my position in a mature and reasonable manner, and receive nothing but ridicule. **** you all.

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