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Thread: To buy or not to buy...

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    Re: To buy or not to buy...

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Are you saying that there are no accidents with guns that children have gotten access to?


    I don't think he is saying that at all. I think what he is saying is your speculative scenario is extremley rare and rather uncommon.


    How many childeren die from accidental shooting?


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    Re: To buy or not to buy...

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I don't think he is saying that at all. I think what he is saying is your speculative scenario is extremely rare and rather uncommon.


    How many children die from accidental shooting?

    How many children die of drinking cleaning chemicals? Do you lock those up?

    Teaching your child gun safety is the best thing you can do.

    If you ban everything that is dangerous to children .. you wont have much left
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    Re: To buy or not to buy...

    Quote Originally Posted by bilbus View Post
    How many children die of drinking cleaning chemicals? Do you lock those up?

    Teaching your child gun safety is the best thing you can do.

    If you ban everything that is dangerous to children .. you wont have much left



    I would like for IT to answer this.


    perhaps he can see how irrational he is being.


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    Re: To buy or not to buy...

    Quote Originally Posted by bilbus View Post
    How many children die of drinking cleaning chemicals? Do you lock those up?
    Actually, I do lock up the poisonous chemicals in my house, and I don't even have kids.

    Teaching your child gun safety is the best thing you can do.

    If you ban everything that is dangerous to children .. you wont have much left
    I agree you teach a kid gun safety, but you should also lock up the guns. Leaving them with easy access to deadly tools is not really a smart thing to do.

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    Re: To buy or not to buy...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Actually, I do lock up the poisonous chemicals in my house, and I don't even have kids.



    I agree you teach a kid gun safety, but you should also lock up the guns. Leaving them with easy access to deadly tools is not really a smart thing to do.
    sure, thats a given .. i would say the majority of gun owners with children lock their firearms up.

    I was just pointing out that chemicals are also dangerous, but most people do not lock those up.

    I have no children, so i keep mine unlocked, but on a high shelf.
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    Re: To buy or not to buy...

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Are you saying that there are no accidents with guns that children have gotten access to?
    No, I am saying that you don't have any concrete, rational, supportable reasoning, and you know it.

    Recall your statement, that the idea of buying the rifle in question for the daughter in question "is sick", because....

    Because someone will not lock up their gun properly and a kid is going to have an accident with it as it looks like a toy.
    Please, provide some concrete, rational, supportable, reasoned argument that this WILL happen.

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    Re: To buy or not to buy...

    Quote Originally Posted by bilbus View Post
    sure, thats a given .. i would say the majority of gun owners with children lock their firearms up.

    I was just pointing out that chemicals are also dangerous, but most people do not lock those up.

    I have no children, so i keep mine unlocked, but on a high shelf.
    My nephew and niece come over often enough that I figured locking up the chemicals was a good idea.

    But I have to disagree on one thing. Most parents I know nowadays are so paranoid about their kids they not only lock up all the chemicals, but they lock up everything. I swear I think some people would bubble wrap their kids if they could.

    When I grew up, we were always coming home wounded from something. I'd come home with a huge cut that was bleeding everywhere and my old man would say "That's nothing. At most four or five stitches. Just put some duct tape on it and stop yer cryin' or I'll put a ribbon in yer hair."

    The my mom would come in, look at the cut where ever the hell it was that time, and say "I don't know. That looks pretty bad. I think we should take him to the hospital."

    And my old man would say "Stop coddlin' the boy. He'll be fine."

    Then she'd roll her eyes and take us to the hospital.

    Usually he was wrong and it would take about 8-10 stitches. One time I came back from the hospital with five stitches in my hand and he said "See! I told ya! Duct tape woulda fixed that. Now we've gotta pay that ****in' hospital bill over nothing."

    When I was a kid, we didn't get a band-aid for cuts, we got rubbing alcohol, gauze and duct tape.

    Teaches character.

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    Re: To buy or not to buy...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    My nephew and niece come over often enough that I figured locking up the chemicals was a good idea.

    But I have to disagree on one thing. Most parents I know nowadays are so paranoid about their kids they not only lock up all the chemicals, but they lock up everything. I swear I think some people would bubble wrap their kids if they could.
    I grew up in a house that had several guns in an unlocked glass display cabinet, with the ammunition in the drawer beneath it.

    How could I have possibly survived that?

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    Re: To buy or not to buy...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I grew up in a house that had several guns in an unlocked glass display cabinet, with the ammunition in the drawer beneath it.

    How could I have possibly survived that?
    If you were like me, you had parents that taught you about guns and would beat the ever-living **** out of you if you messed with them.

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    Re: To buy or not to buy...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    If you were like me, you had parents that taught you about guns and would beat the ever-living **** out of you if you messed with them.
    Well, that's the problem!

    The anti-gun loons don't WANT us to teach our kids about guns, even if doing do will keep them safe.

    I guess turning people against guns is more important to them than the safety of innocent children.

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