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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    Quote Originally Posted by bilbus View Post
    Currently 40% of Americans pay no income tax, should these financial failures be permited to influence the country?

    Also should people on government assistence be permited to vote?

    I understand the "right" to vote can not be removed ... but what if?
    You would have to fire half of Congress and Obama’s entire administration.

    I like it

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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    We tried making the voting age 21 and it did not work. It was not fair to the people who were being drafted in a war they had no say in. Hence the Twenty-Sixth Amendment. Should a draft be limited to people who pay income tax?
    Drafts shouldn't exist.

    People who don't perform military service are lower than annelid worms and shouldn't be allowed to vote in any circumstances whatsoever.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    As far as limiting voting to income taxpayers, what about all the other issues that effect everyone? For example, what about war? That issue affects every citizen, wether they are an income taxpayer or not, they should be allowed to voice their opinion on it by way of voting.
    If people don't earn the money to pay the bills, they shouldn't be allowed to vote on what's purchased.

    If they want to vote on other matters, then they have that much more incentive to get off their lazy asses and work.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    Also, what about all the other taxes? Income tax is not the only one. There is sales tax, production tax, import tax, capital gains tax, estate tax, death tax, etc. Everyone in this country pays tax one way or another so we all have a right to vote in order to voice our ideas on those taxes.
    All right.

    Make it so that people that recieve money from the government who are not also uniformed members of the armed services cannot vote.

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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    What happens next if this happens?

    Do we limit voting rights to men over 21?

    This is an evolutionary step backwards.

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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Drafts shouldn't exist.

    People who don't perform military service are lower than annelid worms and shouldn't be allowed to vote in any circumstances whatsoever.
    I tend to think the same thing of people who use inflammatory hyperboles with no sound logice behind them when discussing political issues.

    If people don't earn the money to pay the bills, they shouldn't be allowed to vote on what's purchased.

    If they want to vote on other matters, then they have that much more incentive to get off their lazy asses and work.
    I am learning that your grasp of reality is very tenuous at best. There are disabled people, students, volunteers, etc who all contribute to the well-being of this country and deserve a voice in the government. "We the People" not "We the high income earners".

    And before you say it, I pay more than my fair share of taxes.


    All right.

    Make it so that people that recieve money from the government who are not also uniformed members of the armed services cannot vote.
    No-can-do. I don't find disenfranchisement of the disabled, the elderly, and students to be something I am comfortable with. You, sir, need a civics class or two.

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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Drafts shouldn't exist.

    People who don't perform military service are lower than annelid worms and shouldn't be allowed to vote in any circumstances whatsoever.
    There you go again. Proving that you are the "embodiment of reason" as you claim. Carry on trolling now.
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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    But this is going way too far! Clearly a political ploy for votes.!

    incarcerated-felons.[/B]aspx]Hawaii State Senate approves voting by incarcerated felons > Hawaii Free Press > Articles Main

    Should Hawaii’s incarcerated felons vote? Sen. Will Espero, D-Ewa, thinks so and nearly all of his Senate colleagues backed the idea with their vote on the third reading of SB 619, SD 2 during yesterday’s crossover.

    Espero acknowledged that the bill is controversial and will have difficulty passing the House, but he defended the idea saying it will help felons turn their life around. Most all of the 6,000 people in Hawaii’s prisons are serving sentences of 10 years or less, Espero noted, emphasizing they need the opportunity to become more socially responsible before they are released back into the community.

    Slom maintained that incarcerated felons lost their rights when violated civil rights of others and broke the law. He also noted that in Hawaii, lawmakers continue to pay more attention and concern for the perpetrators of crime rather than the victims.

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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    What happens next if this happens?

    Do we limit voting rights to men over 21?

    This is an evolutionary step backwards.
    Limit voting rights to gun owners, imo.

    If you're not going to stand ready to difend this country from forign invasion then why should have a say in anything?
    Last edited by Jerry; 03-11-09 at 07:19 PM.

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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I second that.

    This is the face of the new generation. Its worse than baby boomers.
    You know, it hurts me when people say things like this. The media never portrays kids well, and we're no worse - maybe better, bertainly better-informed - than our parents were at our age. We're also much more enviro-minded and supportive of equality, the first generation that grew up with general acceptance of homosexuals, for example. If anyone's going to fix the problems you guys (not to generalize; your generation) made, it will be us.
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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I tend to think the same thing of people who use inflammatory hyperboles with no sound logice behind them when discussing political issues.
    I don't like Democrats either.

    Unlike you, I don't support their positions.

    Just because YOU can't win an argument doesn't mean the other guy isn't using sound logic.

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I am learning that your grasp of reality is very tenuous at best. There are disabled people, students, volunteers, etc who all contribute to the well-being of this country and deserve a voice in the government. "We the People" not "We the high income earners".
    Well, let's take 'em one at a time.

    Students? If they knew ****, they'd be done going to school....unless they're military vets. Since they don't know ****, they don't need to vote.

    Disabled people...if they can't earn money, they've got bigger problems than getting to the polls....and if they're not earning enough to pay income taxes....no, they shouldn't have a vote. I'm easy. Just because they're crippled doesn't mean they should get anything for free.

    I'm also blunt.

    That means I don't have a pointy head, got it?

    Volunteering is nice. Why should someone who makes a choice to "volunteer", and thereby forego earning an income that can be taxed, get benefits the people that earn the incomes and pay the taxes get...ie, voting for the members of congress who decide how the tax dollars are spent? It's not the volunteers tax dollars, right?

    So, if they want a "voice in government", how about if the drop the feel good stuff and get an honest job, instead?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    No-can-do. I don't find disenfranchisement of the disabled, the elderly, and students to be something I am comfortable with. You, sir, need a civics class or two.
    You don't have to be comfortable with it.

    You just have to accept the fact that it's morally wrong for people who don't earn the money to have a say in how it's spent.

    There's really no getting around that point.

    If they haven't paid, they shouldn't expect to play.

    And if that means the people who do pay decide that the people who don't vote don't have unconstitutional entitlements to their money, that's only fair. Socialism is, after all, the reason the nation's drowing in debt and suffering a banking collapse.

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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Edify_Always_In_All_Ways View Post
    You know, it hurts me when people say things like this. The media never portrays kids well, and we're no worse - maybe better, bertainly better-informed - than our parents were at our age. We're also much more enviro-minded and supportive of equality, the first generation that grew up with general acceptance of homosexuals, for example. If anyone's going to fix the problems you guys (not to generalize; your generation) made, it will be us.
    I'm not sure what generation you represent but I'm 25 and my peers have been less than stellar in their understanding of what it takes to continue a free nation.

    I think it is a further degradation of their parents views.
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