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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Voting is a fundamental right whenever an election is held in your region. Once an election occurs, the right to vote cannot be infringed for arbitrary reasons.

    The state can decide not to hold a popular election for President, but once it is offered, infringement cannot occur except for under certain circumstances. Such as felony convictions, which can also limit the fundamental right to bear arms.
    My point exactly.

    The State can choose not to let you vote, and hold no election at all, therefore the right to vote is not fundimental, but civil.

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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I think menstruating women should stay home.
    on election day, you mean?

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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    Quote Originally Posted by emdash View Post
    on election day, you mean?
    Just in general.

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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    Quote Originally Posted by emdash View Post
    I don't agree with jerry that anyone who wants bigger gov't shouldn't be voting, although I think they're wrong. banning people from the polls because they don't agree with jerry might be good for the country in the short run, but what about when jerry gets old and alzheimer's/dementia come into play?
    Jerry has no more win?

    Seriously, there should be a school for people to evaluate laws and leaders based on logic and they should be the voters.

    Of course not everyone would follow the rational thinking plan but the general rule would apply.

    Quote Originally Posted by emdash View Post
    I totally agree with that entire section. (plus when I was in school in the midwest they told me I was too stoic to drink pop, I had to drink soda. they never got my jokes either. it is comforting to think that imposed stoicism would keep them from voting while I would run free.)
    In high school I had this problem.

    The hierarchies don't play well with intellectuals and that is why I'm mostly against government schools.

    The hierarchies created are detrimental to childhood development and self actualization.

    Here nearly everyone calls a soda "coke". I've always said just soda, plus I like Pepsi better which is heresy to most here.
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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    My point exactly.

    The State can choose not to let you vote, and hold no election at all, therefore the right to vote is not fundimental, but civil.
    The right to vote in an election is a fundamental right.

    The right to have an election is a civil right.

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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Just in general.
    oh, only general elections?

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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    Quote Originally Posted by emdash View Post
    oh, only general elections?
    Nothing to do with elections at all. She could use an absentee ballot or something.

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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Nothing to do with elections at all. She could use an absentee ballot or something.
    if you could get employers to give paid vacation days, I think I speak for every woman when I say we would be more than happy to stay at home for a week every month.

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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    Quote Originally Posted by emdash View Post
    I didn't cry sexism. I cried...egocentrism?
    Either way it is an Ad-Homonym, a logical fallacy.

    I'm speaking on the level of populations and public policy yet you insist on bringing the discussion down to the level of personal attacks.

    Quote Originally Posted by emdash View Post
    regardless of sex, you only want smallest-government-possible proponents to vote because you think (or know) that small government is ideal. all of your criteria are centered around this.
    That is what the founding fathers designed this government to be, yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by emdash View Post
    it's cute that you would automatically assume I'm crying sexism because I'm female. I think you instinctively cry "feminine emotional lunacy" to the point that it's not completely rational.
    Here again is another attempt to drag the discussion down to the level of personal attacks instead of populations and public policy.

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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    Quote Originally Posted by emdash View Post
    I don't agree with jerry that anyone who wants bigger gov't shouldn't be voting, although I think they're wrong. banning people from the polls because they don't agree with jerry might be good for the country in the short run, but what about when jerry gets old and alzheimer's/dementia come into play?
    I see your propensity to personalize everything

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