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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I think the best way to deal with these posts is to show their foolish hyperbole by posting some of my own



    And when I was 20 I was knowledgeable enough that I wouldn't fall for that "trickle down economics" scam. Since most of those old folks suck it up like milk, I'd say you people aren't as aware of what's in the real world as you'd like to claim.

    And I've NEVER been stupid enough to vote for a Republican. Most of your generation cannot say that.

    Yeah, the problems your generation caused. Idiotic, outrageous deficits.

    Your generation mostly embraced greed; and we are now paying for it with economic collapse.

    Since your generation is foolish enough to reject democracy, preferring to enlist in oligarchy, it is fortunate that my generation is rescuing us from the cliff you have attempted to throw us off of.

    And my usual disclaimer. This post was made just to exemplify the foolish hyperbole, misrepresentation and extremism of the poster quoted.
    Typical wealth envy response,

    trickle down economics allows buisnesses to save money, and expand and hire more people.
    Would you perfer "trickle up poverty"? Taking money from people who earned it to give to people who did not, is just wrong.

    the economic collapse was caused by lenders giving out money to people who should not have goten loans. I beleve that was the left's fault. They were the ones that forced lenders to do that. Fanny and freddy were run by the left.

    Just because you dont have what you want in life, does not give you the right to take it from me .. thats called stealing

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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Let me put on my phishing hat here.....

    In order to vote you should have to meet all of the following:
    • Be a US citizen.
    • Served at least a 2-year tem of service in the US armed forces or civil equivalent with an honorable or medical discharge.-
    • Possess on your person at the time of voting a valid US ID.
    • Have no due Child support.
    • If male you must be over the age of 18.
    • If female you must be married to one man and over the age of 18. -
    • Not on any government assistances including but not limited to:
    • Food Stamps.
    • TANIF.
    • Section8.
    • Have received a Stanford Loan or Pell Grant within the last fiscal year.
    • Have received bailouts on a home mortgage, 9/11 funding, or on any government health insurance plan, or similar, within the last 7 fiscal years. .
    • Veteran's benefits and Social Security are exempt from this section.
  3. Must not be on unemployment unless disabled (proof required).
  4. Must have a valid CCW (all states must be "shall issue" states in other legislation).
[*]Served at least a 2-year tem of service in the US armed forces or civil equivalent with an honorable or medical discharge.-

I dont agree, While i am pro military ad they get .. i think it is a choice should not be something somone is presured into. Unless of course there is a conflict and a draft is needed.

[*]Must not be on unemployment unless disabled (proof required).

I would add Or above retierment age
[*]If female you must be married to one man and over the age of 18. -

Dont agree with that

Why would you say that, any working woman has as much right to vote as any working man
[*]Not on any government assistances

I could not agree more.
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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    My post was an example of hyperbole...a tongue in cheek response to another poster's hyperbolic post.

    There is one thing in your post to address, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by evilHasAName View Post
    trickle down economics allows buisnesses to save money, and expand and hire more people.
    Would you perfer "trickle up poverty"? Taking money from people who earned it to give to people who did not, is just wrong.
    Except "trickle down economics" NEVER works that way. It allows businesses to save money...which they do, place in their own pockets and do not hire more people or help out their own employees. This is why, when enacted, the rich got richer, and the middle class got nothing. Greed prevails.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    I am sure you have never run a buisness, if you beleve that.

    The one i work for is having tough times right now, if they got some tax brakes we would not have had to lay off 20 people.

    wealth envy at its finest

    Funny how the poor always hate buisness and want them taxed, but get mad when you lose "your" job. its not your job, it was never your job. You are paid to do a task, do it well and you will be to valuable to be fired.

    When you tax the rich, you are taxing your buisness .. the buisness is not going to suffer from it .. they will just fire you to keep the budget the same.

    There is no right to work. Perhaps there will be when the great one makes everyone join a union and makes firing people ilegal.

    Aditudes like this keep the poor down. The dems dont help either.

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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    Quote Originally Posted by evilHasAName View Post
    I am sure you have never run a buisness, if you beleve that.
    Actually, I have.

    The one i work for is having tough times right now, if they got some tax brakes we would not have had to lay off 20 people.
    Perhaps. Or perhaps they'd take a bigger profit for themselves, while figuring out how to manage with 20 less people.

    wealth envy at its finest
    Not in the least. The reality of greed.

    Funny how the poor always hate buisness and want them taxed, but get mad when you lose "your" job. its not your job, it was never your job. You are paid to do a task, do it well and you will be to valuable to be fired.

    When you tax the rich, you are taxing your buisness .. the buisness is not going to suffer from it .. they will just fire you to keep the budget the same.
    Thank you. Your second paragraph above just proved my point. "The business is not going to suffer...they will just fire you to keep the budget the same [including their profit]". Trickle down economics trickling down to nowhere.

    There is no right to work. Perhaps there will be when the great one makes everyone join a union and makes firing people ilegal.
    Cool. Another poster who only know how to speak in hyperbole.

    Aditudes like this keep the poor down. The dems dont help either.
    No, attitudes like yours keep the poor down. And the repubs don't help either. Good. Now we've gotten the cursory partisan hackery out of the way, welcome to Debate Politics.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    hackery
    you keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    Quote Originally Posted by emdash View Post
    you keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
    The word is used in conjunction with the word "partisan".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    Prisoners should have the right to vote, otherwise they get no representation in government and their rights can be curtailed. Turning prisons into cesspools of violence and torment is not making any attempt at rehabilitation for the 1% of the population that are behind bars.
    Come on. Criminals are overrepresented in government. Law-abiding citizens are the ones who are underrepresented.

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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    Quote Originally Posted by emdash View Post
    you keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
    Inconceivable!!!
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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
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    If the idiots are the majority, do you support them voting us into failure?

    After all it's democracy.
    no problem, as long as libertarians never become the majority, we won't have idiots in the majority...
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