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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Democracy works because every adult is inherently given the right to vote. Only by being convicted of criminal actions can it be taken away. You want to change that, you might well put on lederhosen and start blowing hitler. If we barred idiots from voting, it wouldn't be democracy because we would going against the majority. Disagreeing with someone is cause to argue against them using our nifty free speech laws, not persecute them using the government.
    It doesn't make one authoritarian to say that some shouldn't vote.

    No reference to Hitler is necessary since democracy brought Hitler his power.

    The United States is not a democracy, it is supposed to be a republic precisely because everyone voting is moronic.

    If the idiots are the majority, do you support them voting us into failure?

    After all it's democracy.
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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I see now. It isn't really about whether a person is paying income tax at all. It is about disenfranchising as many people who disagree with Scarecrow Akhbar as possible.
    Works for me.

    The majority of voters in the country are clearly greedy little immature irresponsible fools, why shouldn't we discover meaningful and practical methods of keeping them away from the dive control station of the submarine?

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    So why do you continue to support Obama again?

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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Democracy works because every adult is inherently given the right to vote.
    Democracy doesn't work, that's why the United States is a Constitutional republic, not a democracy.

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Only by being convicted of criminal actions can it be taken away.
    What about advanced Alzheimer's patients? I support jailing people who register them to vote.

    What about people who've never done anything in their whole lives except pop out babies and sign welfare checks? Why should they be allowed to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    You want to change that, you might well put on lederhosen and start blowing hitler.
    Nope, no way am I becoming a Democrat.

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    If we barred idiots from voting, it wouldn't be democracy because we would going against the majority.
    In the United States if the majority votes to make it illegal to protest Obama's destruction of the nation, would that be constitutional?

    No.

    Of course not.

    The Constitution doesn't permit direct national referendums.

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    Disagreeing with someone is cause to argue against them using our nifty free speech laws, not persecute them using the government.
    Study President Wilson some time.

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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    Quote Originally Posted by bilbus View Post
    She does not contribute to society, she contributes to her family, its not the same.
    You are obviously not a parent.

    See the difference between a child raised by a mother or father who is able to stay home and properly care for, and discipline their children as compared to a child that is raised in a dual-working home.

    If our children are all ****heads where does our society end up?
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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    So why do you continue to support Obama again?
    Wait...what?

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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Democracy doesn't work, that's why the United States is a Constitutional republic, not a democracy.
    A constitutional republic is a type of democracy.

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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    I think the best way to deal with these posts is to show their foolish hyperbole by posting some of my own

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    When I was twenty I was knowledgable enough that I wouldn't have fallen for that "Global Warming" scam. Since most of the little kiddies suck it up like milk, I'd have to say that you people aren't as aware of what's in the real world as you like to claim.
    And when I was 20 I was knowledgeable enough that I wouldn't fall for that "trickle down economics" scam. Since most of those old folks suck it up like milk, I'd say you people aren't as aware of what's in the real world as you'd like to claim.

    I've NEVER been stupid enough to vote for a Democrat. Most of your generation can't say that.
    And I've NEVER been stupid enough to vote for a Republican. Most of your generation cannot say that.

    The problems MY generation caused? No. The socialism destroying this country got it's biggest pushes by our grandparents in the Depression and into the Sixties.
    Yeah, the problems your generation caused. Idiotic, outrageous deficits.

    MY generation mostly embraced capitalism. As everyone knows, capitalism is the only possible philosophy a free society can have.
    Your generation mostly embraced greed; and we are now paying for it with economic collapse.

    So, since your generation is foolish enough to reject freedom and embrace socialism, your generation is going to lead the charge over the cliff your great grandparents led you to and which my generation tried to back away from.
    Since your generation is foolish enough to reject democracy, preferring to enlist in oligarchy, it is fortunate that my generation is rescuing us from the cliff you have attempted to throw us off of.

    And my usual disclaimer. This post was made just to exemplify the foolish hyperbole, misrepresentation and extremism of the poster quoted.
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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I understand what you are saying.

    Why should everyone be able to vote when most don't understand the concepts of which our government was founded on?

    They only hurt the freedoms and liberty we are supposed to enjoy from their complete ignorance and stupidity.
    Mentally disabled people can register to vote. They can vote just because they think one candidate is "nicer" than the other. No one needs to justify why they vote the way they do, everyone is entitled, EVERYONE.

    In the past some countries who were reluctant to embrace democracy tried elections where voting was upper class men only, which meant about 20% of society was determining the fate of the rest. This meant that upper class policy got all the representation because the leaders chosen were the ones catering to them only.

    It is not democracy unless everyone is represented. This includes prisoners, the disabled, people with no income, women, etc. There are no exceptions.

    Only letting those with income vote will create unbalanced policy at the top. It also precludes the fact that you don't need an income to contribute to society.

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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    Quote Originally Posted by bilbus View Post
    Currently 40% of Americans pay no income tax, should these financial failures be permited to influence the country?

    Also should people on government assistence be permited to vote?

    I understand the "right" to vote can not be removed ... but what if?
    Only law abiding citizens who are not incarcerated should be allowed to vote. If you can prove the above then nothing should stop you from voting. One shouldn't need to make certain wages or be in a certain income bracket to vote. Citizens regardless of income tax bracket status still pay sales taxes, vehicle registrations,hunting permits, state taxes and many other taxes.

    IF it is true that only 40% of Americans pay federal income taxes then it is pretty ****ty, but at the same time the 60% who do pay federal income taxes have no one to blame but themselves when they continue to elect those who would swindle them. It always amused me how these people can continue to elect people like this when they know they are going to be forced to pay for some idiotic liberal program that since they make too make do not qualify to use.
    Last edited by jamesrage; 03-12-09 at 11:18 PM.
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    Re: Should voting be limited to Americans who pay Income tax

    Prisoners should have the right to vote, otherwise they get no representation in government and their rights can be curtailed. Turning prisons into cesspools of violence and torment is not making any attempt at rehabilitation for the 1% of the population that are behind bars.

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