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Thread: Democrats Reverse U.S. Policy, Negotiate With Terrorists-Even the Taliban

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    Re: Democrats Reverse U.S. Policy, Negotiate With Terrorists-Even the Taliban

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    What are you talking about? How did Reagan do anything similar in that conflict?

    Are you making stuff up again?
    I realize you're a liberal, but there are these things called history books. If you pick one up sometime and read it (top to bottom, left to right), you'll discover that conservatives really aren't just dreaming up elaborate stories every time they talk about things that happened more than five minutes ago.

    In 1982, Ronald Reagan said that we "could not afford to allow Iraq to lose the war to Iran", and that the United States "would do whatever was necessary to prevent Iraq from losing the war with Iran."

    Ever since, liberals have been morally equating us with Saddam, acting as if our early support for him invalidated our removal of him more than 20 years later, after a decade of failed diplomacy, genocide, and terror-sponsoring.

    Yet now that Democrats are in office, it's not only okay to get our hands dirty, but its even okay to work with a regime that facilitated 9/11 and still hides bin Laden.

    Are you failing to comprehend basic facts and evidence again?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Oh the uber-partisanism is coming out. If you bothered to actually read anything we've said, you would have noticed we are for talking to the members of the Taliban who can be separated from the rest.
    Oh the illiteracy is coming out. If you bothered to actually read anything I've said, you would have noticed my question...are both the "moderates" and the hard core jihadists not hiding bin Laden?

    As I highlighted the first time this smokescreen was tossed up, you're splitting hairs to act as if there is this world of difference between the hard core Taliban extremists who merely sympathize with bin Laden on every level, stone women to death for being raped, and hate our guts...and the "radicals."

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Both Bhkad and I, who normally never see eye to eye agree 100% that you are dead wrong.


    Ad populum fallacy. Try again.

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post

    Bhkad is being an Obama-Apologist?

    I'm not sure you can top that in terms of insanity.
    Um...no. The people contradicting eight years of their own hysterical anti-Bush, "what about Saudi Arabia" rhetoric are who I'm correctly identifying as Obama apologists. Not rocket science.

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    What the hell are you talking about?
    Democrats relentlessly undermining the war in Iraq for five years straight by preaching about "the real war"-the one they trashed and undermined until it could be used to undermine Iraq-turning around and "reconciling our differences" with the Taliban...after claiming that defeating the Taliban would be the central focus of all our resources if elected.

    This is like the third time I've spelled all this out. Either learn how to read or get used to being in the dark on this, because I'm not repeating it again.

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    You really have no understanding of COIN do you?
    You can smear me opposing the "reconciling of our differences" with the terrorist regime that facilitated 9/11 as me not understanding the nature of counterinsurgency all you want. That won't change the fact that the most ridiculous absolutist ideologues on the planet (Democrats), who insisted blindly for eight years straight that it's never okay to get your hands dirty; who constantly claimed that working with, for instance, the Saudis or Pakistan nullified any claims that we were at war with terrorists; who repeatedly argued that siding with Saddam over the lunatic regime Democrats installed in Iran was "why they hate us"...are now doing a total 180 not to work with some questionable enemy of our enemy, but to work with our enemy.

    The Taliban needs to be destroyed, not negotiated with. Leaving it in power on the comically naive hope that the "moderates" will keep Afghanistan from reverting to a savage Islamist slaughterhouse once we're gone is gullible in the extreme.
    Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner (paraphrasing James Bovard).

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    Re: Democrats Reverse U.S. Policy, Negotiate With Terrorists-Even the Taliban

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Brought to you by the aquapub auto response system.
    Garbage in, garbage out. Stop responding to intellectual confrontation by hurling mindless smears and I'll stop pointing it out.
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    Re: Democrats Reverse U.S. Policy, Negotiate With Terrorists-Even the Taliban

    Quote Originally Posted by aquapub View Post
    Garbage in, garbage out. Stop responding to intellectual confrontation by hurling mindless smears and I'll stop pointing it out.
    Brought to you by the aquapub autoresponse system.

    I made several points that, as usual, you glossed over in your hypocritical way by pointing to the specific presentation that you didn't like. Which, by the way, is almost the exact presentation you use in every one of your vitriolic, trashy rants worthy of of worldnet daily.

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    Re: Democrats Reverse U.S. Policy, Negotiate With Terrorists-Even the Taliban

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Liberals & Democrats are evil. Mkay?
    Actually, what I was getting at is that they are confirming that five years of anti-war rhetoric was complete BS. Thanks for the weak smear though.
    Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner (paraphrasing James Bovard).

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    Re: Democrats Reverse U.S. Policy, Negotiate With Terrorists-Even the Taliban

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Brought to you by the aquapub autoresponse system.

    I made several points that, as usual, you glossed over in your hypocritical way by pointing to the specific presentation that you didn't like. Which, by the way, is almost the exact presentation you use in every one of your vitriolic, trashy rants worthy of of worldnet daily.
    Translation: You made points so illogical and hurled smears so ignorant (http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1057953080 (Democrats Reverse U.S. Policy, Negotiate With Terrorists-Even the Taliban)) that I stopped reading...so you called me a homo and started hurling impotent grade school taunts at every turn.

    You're officially a liberal.

    There's a reason so many people ignore your posts.
    Last edited by aquapub; 03-10-09 at 08:27 PM.
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    Re: Democrats Reverse U.S. Policy, Negotiate With Terrorists-Even the Taliban

    Quote Originally Posted by aquapub View Post
    Translation: You made points so illogical-to the point of absurdity-that I stopped reading...so you called me a homo and started hurling impotent grade school taunts at every turn.

    You're officially a liberal.

    There's a reason so many people ignore your posts.
    Liar. I never called you a homo. When did I call you a homo?

    You can't even get your facts straight on one thread.

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    Re: Democrats Reverse U.S. Policy, Negotiate With Terrorists-Even the Taliban

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    Democrats Reverse U.S. Policy, Negotiate With Terrorists-Even the Taliban Did you all not read me? Debate the topic without personal attacks. The next person to insult a poster rather than debate a poster is thread banned.

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    Re: Democrats Reverse U.S. Policy, Negotiate With Terrorists-Even the Taliban

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Liar. I never called you a homo. When did I call you a homo?

    You can't even get your facts straight on one thread.
    Oh, right. It was the other brainiac who called me a homo...you just called me everything else. Got it.

    Sorry I don't keep better track of your brain dead personal attacks. Seriously, take the Midol before you try debating.

    Good night all.

    *Sorry, I just noticed the mod post.
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    Re: Democrats Reverse U.S. Policy, Negotiate With Terrorists-Even the Taliban

    Quote Originally Posted by aquapub View Post
    Actually, what I was getting at is that they are confirming that five years of anti-war rhetoric was complete BS. Thanks for the weak smear though.
    What SMEAR? I actually agree with you you silly little man. Democrats and Liberals are evil and you're completely in the right. I mean seriously. They want to cause another 9/11. They want Americans to die. You are 100% correct in your politically unbiased and rational assessment of the situation.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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    Re: Democrats Reverse U.S. Policy, Negotiate With Terrorists-Even the Taliban

    Now that we're being forced back on track, here is the last post of any seriousness:

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1057954796 (Democrats Reverse U.S. Policy, Negotiate With Terrorists-Even the Taliban)
    Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner (paraphrasing James Bovard).

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