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    Obama to blame for earmarks in spending bill?

    Is Obama somehow to blame for the earmarks in the new $410 billion spending bill?

    In this CNN article:
    CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - Orszag on spending bill: Is it uglier than wed like? Absolutely. - Blogs from CNN.com

    Peter Orszag said "this [spending bill] was negotiated before we came into office and we don't think it's possible to step in and dramatically change it."

    Since the bill was negotiate before Obama became President, Orszag said
    "Would we have written this thing differently? Absolutely. But we face a basic choice here, which is this was negotiated last fall. It's been baked in.is it uglier than we'd like? Yes. But again, this was negotiated last year. We think we should just move on. When we are engaged in the fiscal year 2010 appropriations process, it's going to look a lot different."


    In this article:

    Media Matters - AP ignored Democrats' response to earmark criticism: 40% are from Republicans

    According to several sources, including the Taxpayers for Common Sense, 60% of the earmarks in the bill are from Democrats and 40% are from Republicans.


    So I just want to see how many people actually think Obama is somehow involved in the earmarks of this new spending bill.


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    Re: Obama to blame for earmarks in spending bill?

    why, is ~8000 earmarks any big deal

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    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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    Re: Obama to blame for earmarks in spending bill?

    now he may not be responsible for them being put in, but he sure as hell can veto it until they are removed

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    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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    Re: Obama to blame for earmarks in spending bill?

    yes, he did not veto it. He broke another campaign promise.


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    Re: Obama to blame for earmarks in spending bill?

    No, Obama is not responsible for the earmarks. Congress is responsible for the earmarks. Republican and Democrat alike. That anyone thinks there would be any real change regarding earmarks is simply wishful thinking.

    Earmarks are political capital back in the member's home district as well as on the belt way. Republicans love earmarks as much as Democrats do. Earmarks mean campaign contributions and votes.
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    Re: Obama to blame for earmarks in spending bill?

    Another thing, republicans should not be let off easy, I think something like 40% of the earmarks were from them. Shame on them as well.


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    Re: Obama to blame for earmarks in spending bill?

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    now he may not be responsible for them being put in, but he sure as hell can veto it until they are removed
    I agree, he could veto them. However, I don't know how important the bill is to Reps and Dems.

    He could face some MAJOR opposition, maybe even more than the opposition he had during the passing of the $787 billion stimulus.

    I somewhat agree with Peter Orszag, the Congress already negotiated last year, so Obama shouldn't unnecessarily poke his finger in it to cause trouble, but that's the unfortunate position he's been put in.


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    Re: Obama to blame for earmarks in spending bill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    yes, he did not veto it. He broke another campaign promise.
    Obama didn't put earmarks in the bill. Senators and Representatives did that. Republican and Democrat alike.

    Your logic is misguided. The final spending bill has not been sent to him for approval or veto yet, it's not cleared the Senate. You might want to check that out.
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    Re: Obama to blame for earmarks in spending bill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    yes, he did not veto it. He broke another campaign promise.
    The argument from Reps and Dems alike is the fact that they need the bill to "survive" for the next year or so.

    If he vetoed the bill, it could cause unnecessary trouble.


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    Re: Obama to blame for earmarks in spending bill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Obama didn't put earmarks in the bill. Senators and Representatives did that. Republican and Democrat alike.

    Your logic is misguided. The bill has not been sent to him for approval or veto yet, it's not cleared the Senate. You might want to check that out.


    Do you have any indicators that he will veto it? He is fear mongering for it's passage.


    He lies and says it has no earmarks,.


    YouTube - Obama #1: This bill does not have a single earmark in it, which is unprecedented for its size



    Please to explain.


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