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    Do you believe in Man Made Global Warming?

    Do you?

    It means, if we can warm the climate, we can cool it too.

    Do you really think man can accomplish this intentionally or not?

    I think if we made an all out effort one way or the other it would never work.

    In 15th Century Europe they had a mini Ice-Age. How would the enviromanics react to that today? Like the Chicken Littles they are?

    South Bavaria was a wine region up to 500-years ago. It's too cold to be a wine region today. Shouldn't we be warmer then?

    Math for the warmest period during the last 100 years was recently corrected by a 14-year old math geek. The last decade was the hottest using Algore math, but falls down the list when people add 1+1.

    The Hockey stick curve was also exploded. It was a fixed program.

    In models they cannot factor in the role of water vapor accurately... clouds... because they don't know what it does.

    Global Warming Hoax: NASA Revises Temperature Data - 1930's warmest on record!
    * Only 4 of the top 10 warmest years occurred in the past 10 years (1998, 1999, 2006)
    * Out of the top 10 warmest years half occurred before 1940
    * The years 2000, 2002, 2003 and 2004 were cooler than the year 1900
    * 1996, just two years before what Al Gore called the hottest year in the history of the planet, was actually cooler than average.
    * 1921 was the third warmest year in recorded history (behind 1934 and 1998).
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    Re: Do you believe in Man Made Global Warming?

    I have to agree.

    I say that there is evidence that suggests we do have an effect on the climate, but, I do think there is an abundance of hype as far as Global Warming itself; I think we are a bit narcissistic in our beliefs that we could have this much impact on the temperature of our planet.

    However, I do believe some anthropogenic functions are acting to deteriorate our environment, at a negative cost to both it and us. Deforestation is ridding ecological areas of needed nutrients. Carbon and fossil fuels in the atmosphere are causing acid rain, which also destroys flora. I think it behooves us to make efforts to protect and aide the environment, but the status quo is a bit over bearing.

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    Re: Do you believe in Man Made Global Warming?

    I believe in man made ruination of the globe, horribly dangerous pollution, nasty living condition, garbage mountains, constant smoke chimneys, smoke from cars, garbage, chemicals, smoke, more smoke, toxic pollutants...

    There is no reason for me not to believe in man made global warming when we smoke the earth, just like a smoker smokes his lungs.

    I have seen effects even in my age of living.. My country Norway is quite a cold country, the west and south where I have lived in relatively warmer than the rest, but when I was young we often had snow and ice, now there is never snow and ice anymore in those places, just rain and wind like the rest of the year.. Is there something going on? Yes, definetely. Is that man made global warming? most likely, yes, certain? no.
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    Re: Do you believe in Man Made Global Warming?

    I think that with hundreds of millions of vehicles on the road and millions of factories and power plants spewing gasses on a scale that has never been seen, and with the rapid transition to such a state (less than a century), it would be pretty incredible if we were having no impact on the climate.

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    Re: Do you believe in Man Made Global Warming?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    I believe in man made ruination of the globe, horribly dangerous pollution, nasty living condition, garbage mountains, constant smoke chimneys, smoke from cars, garbage, chemicals, smoke, more smoke, toxic pollutants...

    There is no reason for me not to believe in man made global warming when we smoke the earth, just like a smoker smokes his lungs.

    I have seen effects even in my age of living.. My country Norway is quite a cold country, the west and south where I have lived in relatively warmer than the rest, but when I was young we often had snow and ice, now there is never snow and ice anymore in those places, just rain and wind like the rest of the year.. Is there something going on? Yes, definetely. Is that man made global warming? most likely, yes, certain? no.
    Smoke?
    What about all the crap from the volcanoes?
    They don't work from 9 to 5.
    Wildfires that would burn massively if not for man putting them out.
    All the lightening strikes, tsunami's, hurricanes, drought, wind, sand.

    Hell, where it is green in Africa was once arid and where arid it was green. What would enviromaniacs make of that?

    This is an ultra-violent planet.

    And the sun?
    That little ball of thermonuclear explosions that flares and gives us heat waves? And leaves us cold when it disappears in the evening?

    It's not constant... and its activity has been traced to... our globe warming!

    Nah... meaningless...
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    Re: Do you believe in Man Made Global Warming?

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Smoke?
    What about all the crap from the volcanoes?
    They don't work from 9 to 5.
    Wildfires that would burn massively if not for man putting them out.
    All the lightening strikes, tsunami's, hurricanes, drought, wind, sand.

    Hell, where it is green in Africa was once arid and where arid it was green. What would enviromaniacs make of that?

    This is an ultra-violent planet.

    And the sun?
    That little ball of thermonuclear explosions that flares and gives us heat waves? And leaves us cold when it disappears in the evening?

    It's not constant... and its activity has been traced to... our globe warming!

    Nah... meaningless...
    Have you ever been to a large city? Its disgusting.. Garbage, pollution, unfresh air, trash, dirtha nd so fourth.

    Have you ever been to a real "industrial city"? Where factories puke out poison from Chimneys, constant stream of hot smoke from thousands of them. Ever seen that? And smelled the air in such a city? The air smells like fart and cigarettes.

    How active are volcanoes anyways? What happens when they break out really large? Disaster, the smoke clounds the heavens and ofcourse the lava has horrendeus effects. But then again, how many volcanoes have erupted hugely the last 50 years, and how much smoke and gasses and poison came from that, compared with the last 50 years of industry?


    I am not saying these things are definitely the reason for whats happening, but it most likely has some negative effect on the planet, and if it do not, we definetely know for sure it has a negative effect on how humans live and the human environment.

    For all we know, gap of science could be the reason for the global warming, unknown movements of the sun vs the earth, vs the moon and so fourth that we havent taken into consideration. Moon shifting the natural pole positions of the earth, or them having shifted all along. A lot of unknown factors could play in. But the way humans live in pollution is just a bad way to keep living, no matter if it ruins our planet or just ourselves.
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    Re: Do you believe in Man Made Global Warming?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Have you ever been to a large city? Its disgusting.. Garbage, pollution, unfresh air, trash, dirtha nd so fourth.

    Have you ever been to a real "industrial city"? Where factories puke out poison from Chimneys, constant stream of hot smoke from thousands of them. Ever seen that? And smelled the air in such a city? The air smells like fart and cigarettes.

    How active are volcanoes anyways? What happens when they break out really large? Disaster, the smoke clounds the heavens and ofcourse the lava has horrendeus effects. But then again, how many volcanoes have erupted hugely the last 50 years, and how much smoke and gasses and poison came from that, compared with the last 50 years of industry?


    I am not saying these things are definitely the reason for whats happening, but it most likely has some negative effect on the planet, and if it do not, we definetely know for sure it has a negative effect on how humans live and the human environment.

    For all we know, gap of science could be the reason for the global warming, unknown movements of the sun vs the earth, vs the moon and so fourth that we havent taken into consideration. Moon shifting the natural pole positions of the earth, or them having shifted all along. A lot of unknown factors could play in. But the way humans live in pollution is just a bad way to keep living, no matter if it ruins our planet or just ourselves.
    Not making an argument one way or another, but here's a pretty interesting timeline for volcanic eruptions that found that might be interesting.

    Link
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    Re: Do you believe in Man Made Global Warming?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Have you ever been to a large city? Its disgusting.. Garbage, pollution, unfresh air, trash, dirtha nd so fourth.
    Seen and lived in many.


    Have you ever been to a real "industrial city"? Where factories puke out poison from Chimneys, constant stream of hot smoke from thousands of them. Ever seen that? And smelled the air in such a city? The air smells like fart and cigarettes.
    Go through any Eastern European city. They burn a lot of coal.

    How active are volcanoes anyways? What happens when they break out really large? Disaster, the smoke clounds the heavens and ofcourse the lava has horrendeus effects. But then again, how many volcanoes have erupted hugely the last 50 years, and how much smoke and gasses and poison came from that, compared with the last 50 years of industry?
    There are volcanoes all over the planet that are regularly active; constantly spewing their inner filth.

    I am not saying these things are definitely the reason for whats happening, but it most likely has some negative effect on the planet, and if it do not, we definetely know for sure it has a negative effect on how humans live and the human environment.
    Nothing we can use to control climate... sorry.
    For all we know, gap of science could be the reason for the global warming, unknown movements of the sun vs the earth, vs the moon and so fourth that we havent taken into consideration. Moon shifting the natural pole positions of the earth, or them having shifted all along. A lot of unknown factors could play in. But the way humans live in pollution is just a bad way to keep living, no matter if it ruins our planet or just ourselves.
    Nobody likes pollution, but let's not be stupid and WASTE bajillions on something we cannot control.

    As Lomborg points out, we have a bajillion better things to do with the money than try to fix something we can't.
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    Re: Do you believe in Man Made Global Warming?

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Do you?

    It means, if we can warm the climate, we can cool it too.
    Yas and
    Yes with lots of sulfur in the atmosphere. But that is not a good solution.

    Do you really think man can accomplish this intentionally or not?
    Of course we can. Look at extinction rate, habitat loss, etc. The environment hasn't had this much turbulence since the killing of the dinosaurs. And the atmosphere is just as fragile as the biosphere. and 75% of the mass of the atmosphere is the thin troposphere which is closest to earth which we are changing the composition of, anthropologically.

    I think if we made an all out effort one way or the other it would never work.
    Never say never.

    In 15th Century Europe they had a mini Ice-Age. How would the enviromanics react to that today? Like the Chicken Littles they are?
    If the absolute value of the derivative of temperature during the ice age was equal to the warming today, I'd say we should have been very scared. But it wasn't, so no.

    If this isn't human caused, then some effed up shizz is going on.

    South Bavaria was a wine region up to 500-years ago. It's too cold to be a wine region today. Shouldn't we be warmer then?
    Average global temperatures are important. Not small isolated areas. That cooling perhaps was an exception and a trip to Google would answer that question.

    Math for the warmest period during the last 100 years was recently corrected by a 14-year old math geek. The last decade was the hottest using Algore math, but falls down the list when people add 1+1.
    Cite that

    The Hockey stick curve was also exploded. It was a fixed program
    .
    Agreed.

    In models they cannot factor in the role of water vapor accurately... clouds... because they don't know what it does.
    Also agreed.

    From Globalwarminghoax.com?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    Not making an argument one way or another, but here's a pretty interesting timeline for volcanic eruptions that found that might be interesting.

    Link
    Now THATS a lot of interesting data in just one page. I don't quite know how to inteprete the peak as of lately though. It could be interpreted in a whole massive amounts of different ways. I have to chew on that for a bit. Very interesting though, thanks.
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