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    Re: Do you believe in Man Made Global Warming?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tagged N. View Post
    So, where do the climatologists get their data? I may have incorrectly assumed they would accumulate it, at least in part, from statistical data gathered by meteorologists.
    Ummm no. Meteorologists look at the current weather conditions and make predictions(forecasting). Climatologists study the weather conditions averaged over a period of time. Even if meteorologists weren't able to predict correctly what conditions in the weather will be like tomorrow that has absolutely not bearing on the job of a climatologist because the two have little to do with each other. One deals with the records the other deals with predicting what the records will be like. Your argument is flawed. What you are basically saying is that if somebody who works with Astrophysics is wrong then somebody who works with biophysics is also wrong. The two are not the same fields of science.

    http://icecap.us/images/uploads/JC_comments.doc

    This by article from 2007 by John Coleman (founder of The Weather Chanel) in which he states outright that the man-made global warming idea is a scam also...

    ...left me with the impression that the two groups would work together.
    John Coleman isn't a climatologist. He's not even a METEOROLOGIST. Saying that he the founder of the 'Weather Channel' has anything to offer in this discussion is an appeal to authority. Stop trying. Seriously.

    Thank you again, in the future I'll try to be pedantic and insufferable.
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    Re: Do you believe in Man Made Global Warming?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tagged N. View Post
    Wouldn't we need to remove man and compare to establish this?

    In the seventies the fear tactic was the coming ice age. Which is it?
    Well we actually need a copy of earth to run that experiment but unfortuanitly we dont have one so i say lets go with the scientific prediction.
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    Re: Do you believe in Man Made Global Warming?

    Quote Originally Posted by mikhail View Post
    Well we actually need a copy of earth to run that experiment but unfortuanitly we dont have one so i say lets go with the scientific prediction.
    We shouldn't. Let's go with the Bible/Qur'an/Torah one. Hopefully God destroys the planet and beams us all up like Scotty. Well most of us anyways.
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    Re: Do you believe in Man Made Global Warming?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Ummm no. Meteorologists look at the current weather conditions and make predictions(forecasting). Climatologists study the weather conditions averaged over a period of time. Even if meteorologists weren't able to predict correctly what conditions in the weather will be like tomorrow that has absolutely not bearing on the job of a climatologist because the two have little to do with each other. One deals with the records the other deals with predicting what the records will be like. Your argument is flawed. What you are basically saying is that if somebody who works with Astrophysics is wrong then somebody who works with biophysics is also wrong. The two are not the same fields of science.



    John Coleman isn't a climatologist. He's not even a METEOROLOGIST. Saying that he the founder of the 'Weather Channel' has anything to offer in this discussion is an appeal to authority. Stop trying. Seriously.



    No problem.
    Wow, this is tedious, can you put your mom on the phone please?

    They are one community of thought which fails to recognize their own limitations. This was dealt with in the link...maybe you could have someone read it to you.
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    Re: Do you believe in Man Made Global Warming?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tagged N. View Post
    Wow, this is tedious, can you put your mom on the phone please?

    They are one community of thought which fails to recognize their own limitations. This was dealt with in the link...maybe you could have someone read it to you.

    That link was just a long ad hominem

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    Re: Do you believe in Man Made Global Warming?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tagged N. View Post
    Kinetic theory of Gases: Proof that CO2 is not a greenhouse gas

    The author of this article might not agree with your assertion.
    The author needs to go back to school.

    The carbon dioxide greenhouse - is it effective?: a lab ICT test

    A simple experiment shows how Co2 vs O2 retains significently more amounts of heat.
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    Re: Do you believe in Man Made Global Warming?

    I think the environment is cyclical, but I also do believe we do have some impact on it. The scope of that impact is more up for debate, and I'd wager its on a low to low-moderate side of things.

    That doesn't mean we shouldn't work to improve the planet. Conservation is not a bad word. Clean, renewable forms of fuel are not bad. We should strive for such things, each and every citizen.

    That said, I think the global warming crowd on the extreme end have taken this too far, forming a cataclysmic apocolypic scenario to scare people into doing what they want which is generally instilling a far more "Fair" in their mind and in general socialist life style. I do not believe that we need the government to take gigantic steps to completely revamp the way forcefully that we live our life, but instead we should focus more on educating people and giving people incentives to work towards being more pollution and waste conscious rather than punishing them for not doing it.

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    Re: Do you believe in Man Made Global Warming?

    I don't know.

    But the way it was presented to the public was so incompetent that I tend to not believe them.

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    Re: Do you believe in Man Made Global Warming?

    What impact we have even on carbon dioxide is pretty much negligable when compared to the natural expulsion of CO2 from various sources.

    That said, humans are capable of tremendous ecological destruction, in manufacturing, pulp and paper, GMO's, HAARP, energy production, chemicals in the water, and so on... It's more the results of the ABUSE of plastics, abuses in mass production, not to mention coal and oil production.

    GMO's have not been adequately studied. and so on.

    The correlation on climate is primarily a result of solar activity, global cloud cover, cosmic radiation.

    Then there is the issue of 'chemtrails' (for lack of a better term)... you can't deny they don't exist... look at the sky. (Hint : Natural clouds do NOT form X patterns).

    The issue with 'Global warming' or 'Climate change' (as they have to call it now), and using CO2 as a culprit is inevitably going to be used for Carbon TAXES... these will be crippling for the average person, and sets the precedent that 'humanity is BAD' 'living is bad' because eventually these carbon taxes will account for the CO2 you expell when you breath.

    So... the answer to the question :

    YES... humans are having a negative impact on our climate.
    NO... It's nothing to do with CO2 (which is at best barely mentionable as the overall culprit that humans are creating)

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    Re: Do you believe in Man Made Global Warming?

    I am skeptical of the whole Global Warming thing especially with the evidence coming out that global temperature has been dropping since 2001 and will probably continue to drop for the next 30 years.
    Anyone remember Global Cooling?
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