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    Re: Do you believe in Man Made Global Warming?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Now THATS a lot of interesting data in just one page. I don't quite know how to inteprete the peak as of lately though. It could be interpreted in a whole massive amounts of different ways. I have to chew on that for a bit. Very interesting though, thanks.
    One thing that really stood out for me was the two massive eruptions (Mt. St. Helens and Mt. Pinatubo) that occurred only 11 years apart. I lived near Pinatubo right up until the eruption. It was very interesting to see some of the eruptions (there were several) and then the aftermath several weeks later.
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    Re: Do you believe in Man Made Global Warming?

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Nothing we can use to control climate... sorry.
    Yes there is. Embrace a cleaner more effective creation of energy(more nuclear, wind, solar, ocean and motion energy in general), and fully embrace electric energy as the standard of all energy for everything. That would go a long way to clean up our cities at least, it would make all the "environment" people happy, and it would create massive amounts of activity(jobs).

    At best it could reverse the negative effects of human created global warming(if such exist), at worst it could launch us into a cleaner future, with cleaner more silent cities.

    Things such as more effective processing of garbage could also go a long way in reversing human created global warming or just clean up our act and make everyone more happy, and our economy more effective(recycling, creating energy from trash and so fourth).

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Nobody likes pollution, but let's not be stupid and WASTE bajillions on something we cannot control.

    As Lomborg points out, we have a bajillion better things to do with the money than try to fix something we can't.
    Really? Whats more important than cleaning up the air in cities for example, we have embrace personal hygiene, so why not embrace a cleaner more fresh society? Less dirt, less garbage, less noise, less dirty air and so fourth. Wouldn't that make you happy? You said you have lived in cities, so I cannot see how such measure could NOT make you happy.


    PS. Renewable energy for the society in the long run makes far more economic sense than non-renewable energy.
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    Re: Do you believe in Man Made Global Warming?

    If man can and had destroyes entire ecosystems and habitats by building cities and claiming farm land from ancient jungles it seems ridiculous that he wouldn't or couldn't have any kind of real damaging consequences like Global Warming on the entire planet when this damage is done on a planet wide scale. As far as the poll. I don't believe in Man Made Global Warming. I take it as a fact. Therefor I can not answer the poll question.
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    Re: Do you believe in Man Made Global Warming?

    Well first we'll have to get rid of all this freedom and personal liberty nonsense because that's going to slow everything down. Then we must accept that those "wizards of smart" that can't say definitively whether it will rain tomorrow on my 75'x150' lot, can predict the future of weather for the entire globe. And finally we'll need to get rid of the economy that has produced the highest standard of living the planet has ever known. Because we can't wait for the market to give us the cleaner energy that everyone would be more than happy to use if it were available. Meanwhile the extremists are becoming fabulously wealthy, pure coincidence I'm sure.

    I work with some 'good ole boys' that are working on ideas in the garage for generating electricity on the micro-level. Taking their homes completely off grid. And they are having surprising success. A link posted a few days ago went to a drag car that was winning time trials against gas powered drag cars, again built in some guys' garage. The American Spirit of entrepreneurial-ism is alive and well outside the Chicken Little circles, and the answers are coming. If we'll just take a breath and stop running in circles trying to scare everyone to death we'll have the answers without having to live like the uni-bomber. Those people like ALGORE who are out front are there because it's profitable, just like T. Boone Picken-your-pocket. The private market solution won't require government subsidy to work. The real heroes are always going to be the guy with a vision and lot's of coffee. He'll step out of the shadows when his product is marketable. The socialists who think government has to do everything just can't seem to muster faith in their fellow man.
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    Re: Do you believe in Man Made Global Warming?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tagged N. View Post
    Well first we'll have to get rid of all this freedom and personal liberty nonsense because that's going to slow everything down. Then we must accept that those "wizards of smart" that can't say definitively whether it will rain tomorrow on my 75'x150' lot, can predict the future of weather for the entire globe. And finally we'll need to get rid of the economy that has produced the highest standard of living the planet has ever known. Because we can't wait for the market to give us the cleaner energy that everyone would be more than happy to use if it were available. Meanwhile the extremists are becoming fabulously wealthy, pure coincidence I'm sure.
    You do know that meteorology and climatology are not the same thing right?

    Meteorology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Meteorology (from Greek μετέωρος, metéōros, "high in the sky"; and -λογία, -logia) is the interdisciplinary scientific study of the atmosphere that focuses on weather processes and forecasting (in contrast with climatology). Studies in the field stretch back millennia, though significant progress in meteorology did not occur until the eighteenth century. The nineteenth century saw breakthroughs occur after observing networks developed across several countries. Breakthroughs in weather forecasting were achieved in the latter half of the twentieth century, after the development of the computer.
    Climatology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Climatology (from Greek κλίμα, klima, "region, zone"; and -λογία, -logia) is the study of climate, scientifically defined as weather conditions averaged over a period of time,[1] and is a branch of the atmospheric sciences. Basic knowledge of climate can be used within shorter term weather forecasting using analog techniques such as the El Niño - Southern Oscillation (ENSO), the Madden-Julian Oscillation (MJO), the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO), the Northern Annualar Mode (NAM), the Arctic oscillation (AO), the Northern Pacific (NP) Index, the Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO), and the Interdecadal Pacific Oscillation (IPO). Climate models are used for a variety of purposes from study of the dynamics of the weather and climate system to projections of future climate.
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    Re: Do you believe in Man Made Global Warming?

    I voted no, I do not believe in the man made global warming fairy tale.
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    Re: Do you believe in Man Made Global Warming?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You do know that meteorology and climatology are not the same thing right?

    Meteorology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



    Climatology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: Do you believe in Man Made Global Warming?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinu7 View Post
    From Globalwarminghoax.com?
    I usually link the most left wing source I can find.

    This time I threw it in there to see if anyone would complain... it's basically NASA's work.

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    Re: Do you believe in Man Made Global Warming?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Really? Whats more important than cleaning up the air in cities for example, we have embrace personal hygiene, so why not embrace a cleaner more fresh society? Less dirt, less garbage, less noise, less dirty air and so fourth. Wouldn't that make you happy? You said you have lived in cities, so I cannot see how such measure could NOT make you happy.
    Go back and read the quote... cleaner air in cities will not make global warming go Bye-bye


    PS. Renewable energy for the society in the long run makes far more economic sense than non-renewable energy.
    Oil makes sense NOW.

    Our industries revolve around oil.
    Cars.
    It's cheap and plentiful.
    It's what made us... Us.

    Renewable couldn't keep the world going and one day we will use another source... to serve the billions on this planet. Nuclear is my bet.

    Nothing else makes sense... Greeny Fuel might feel good, but will it power a world needing more energy? Nope.
    It'll have its niche market... like the corner store vs. Wal Mart Worldwide.

    Would be nice, but reality is cruel.
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    Re: Do you believe in Man Made Global Warming?

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Oil makes sense NOW.

    Our industries revolve around oil.
    Cars.
    It's cheap and plentiful.
    It's what made us... Us.

    Renewable couldn't keep the world going and one day we will use another source... to serve the billions on this planet. Nuclear is my bet.

    Nothing else makes sense... Greeny Fuel might feel good, but will it power a world needing more energy? Nope.
    It'll have its niche market... like the corner store vs. Wal Mart Worldwide.

    Would be nice, but reality is cruel.
    No it doesnt.. Oil is running out and will eventually run out. It makes sense to prepare for that ahead of time..
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