View Poll Results: Should civil unions replace marriage for legal purposes?

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  • The term civil union should replace the term marriage for legal purposes

    15 22.73%
  • Both terms, civil union (for gay couples)and marriage (for straight), should be used

    25 37.88%
  • The term marriage should be use equally for gay and straight couples

    21 31.82%
  • Gay couples should not be able to have the rights of marriage at all.

    5 7.58%
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Thread: Civil Unions

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    Re: Civil Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Pookie View Post
    Oh POO, BH! If the term means the same as what we have, all the legal rights and everything, equal standing, everything, explain to me where this is discriminatory. You're picking at a stupid term. Let marriage belong to the church and civil union to those who choose it.
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    What does that even mean?

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    Re: Civil Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    What does that even mean?
    Maybe its some sort of matrimonial slavery?

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    Re: Civil Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Maybe its some sort of matrimonial slavery?
    Oh well in that case I support it

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    Re: Civil Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Gay men can marry gay women, though, so no D/discrimination.

    It is orientation Discrimination
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    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Civil Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    It is orientation Discrimination
    Pleae quote an existing law which stipulates an orientation requierment.
    Last edited by Jerry; 03-19-09 at 06:28 PM.

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    Re: Civil Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Pleae quote an existing law which stipulates an orientation requierment.
    A law does not necessarily need to use a category of people within the law to discriminate against that category of people. A perfect example is presented in poll taxes, literacy tests, and grandfather clauses that were instituted to prevent black people from voting although they didn't specifically mention race.
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    Re: Civil Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Pleae quote an existing law which stipulates an orientation requierment.

    the fact that two males or two females are unlawfully allowed to marry each other is all the proof that is needed. the laws stipulate a man and a woman. the laws are hiding behind NOT saying orientation and using this "gender" issue to confuse the matter. it is not complicated...
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Supreme Court can't interpret The Constitution. They don't have that power.

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    Re: Civil Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by YamiB. View Post
    A law does not necessarily need to use a category of people within the law to discriminate against that category of people. A perfect example is presented in poll taxes, literacy tests, and grandfather clauses that were instituted to prevent black people from voting although they didn't specifically mention race.
    So you have no example....

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    Re: Civil Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    the fact that two males or two females are unlawfully allowed to marry each other is all the proof that is needed. the laws stipulate a man and a woman. the laws are hiding behind NOT saying orientation and using this "gender" issue to confuse the matter.
    The laws weren't made with discrimination in mind, unless you're ready with an extremely well sourced conspiracy theory.

    If you are correct here, then the same sex marriage legislation you support is deliberately discriminatory against polygamists as you only refer to 2 people being married.

    Clearly, just as you are not trying to be discriminatory against other groups, neither is the existing law attempting to be discriminatory against homosexuals.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    it is not complicated...
    Yet you still don't understand.
    Last edited by Jerry; 03-19-09 at 09:48 PM.

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    Re: Civil Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    So you have no example....
    I'm not going to bother looking for one. I already showed that it is irrelevant because a law does not need to specifically mention a group to discriminate against them.
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