View Poll Results: Should civil unions replace marriage for legal purposes?

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  • The term civil union should replace the term marriage for legal purposes

    15 22.73%
  • Both terms, civil union (for gay couples)and marriage (for straight), should be used

    25 37.88%
  • The term marriage should be use equally for gay and straight couples

    21 31.82%
  • Gay couples should not be able to have the rights of marriage at all.

    5 7.58%
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Thread: Civil Unions

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    Re: Civil Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Are you being serious?
    I think she is, and I am almost falling out of my chair!
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    Re: Civil Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Are you being serious?
    do you think I am?

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    Re: Civil Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    The reduction in stature would, to some extent, weaken my marriage, yes.
    No it would not, you cannot demonstrate this in any way.

    All sides of the issue agree that the word " marriage" has great intrinsic value as a sociological institution in the minds and hearts of the people.
    What? intrinsic value? In what way? It's a word.
    All sides agree that "civil union" is less than "marriage", even when each have complete and total access to all of the civil rights as the other.
    No, all sides don't agree on this.
    Reducing my hetero union from "marriage" to "civil union" is to weaken my marriage, just as increasing a gay's "civil union" to "marriage" is to strengthen their union.
    Give some demonstrable example. Otherwise I'm taking the position you cannot substantiate this to anything other than your personal opinion on this matter.

    This would be a damage to me, it would in fact weaken my familial bonds to some degree.
    Absolutely not true.
    This is the part where someone makes the argument personal by insinuating that any weakening of familial bonds are the result of my actions or shortcomings, in an attempt to reset the standard procedure of isolating the issue so as to re-polarize it.
    No, this is the part where you need to articulate in some detail how this would weaken your marriage or your familial bonds in measurable way. I think it's in your head Jerry.
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    Re: Civil Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by emdash View Post
    do you think I am?
    I feel like I been played, and worth every second.


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    Re: Civil Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by emdash View Post
    do you think I am?
    Do you think I think, therefore I am?
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    Re: Civil Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I feel like I been played, and worth every second.
    it was my pleasure

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    Re: Civil Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by emdash View Post
    it was my pleasure
    How selfish.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry
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    Re: Civil Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    How selfish.
    watch the ad homs, will you?

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    Re: Civil Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post

    1. Show me that a significant demographic of gay couples are raising children.
    2. Show me that gay couples who are raising children would be in first-marriages if the legislation were to pass.
    3. Show me that gays couples in first marriages are not in step-parent homes.

    This is impossible to show for the simple fact that gays are not allowed to marry. At least in this country. Would you accept an example from another country that does allow gay marriage? Might take me a while to dredge up such numbers though.
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    Re: Civil Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Historically in the USA that is what it has meant, and so far still means. So much so the government tried to go before congress (a waist of time for certain) to have it legally and permanently mean exactly that.

    Sorry man, you are indeed wrong.
    Yes it did...and failed. Can you tell me why it failed?
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