View Poll Results: Should civil unions replace marriage for legal purposes?

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  • The term civil union should replace the term marriage for legal purposes

    15 22.73%
  • Both terms, civil union (for gay couples)and marriage (for straight), should be used

    25 37.88%
  • The term marriage should be use equally for gay and straight couples

    21 31.82%
  • Gay couples should not be able to have the rights of marriage at all.

    5 7.58%
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Thread: Civil Unions

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    Re: Civil Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Wrong.

    Brother's can't marry sisters, or first cusins, or parents...etc, etc, ad nausium.
    That discrimination is based on a genetic relationship. Not a gender relationship,
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    Re: Civil Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    That discrimination is based on a genetic relationship. Not a gender relationship,
    I disproved your claim, will you acknowledge that fact?

    And yes, even though familial relation is a federally protected class, familial couples are still barred from marriage.

    Something can be discrimination and ethical, therefore your arguments crying "that's gender discrimination" fall on deaf ears.

    Let's say a gay marriage ban is gender discrimination: So what?

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    Re: Civil Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    That was too easy
    So easy and yet you failed miserably...try again?
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    Re: Civil Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post

    Something can be discrimination and ethical, therefore your arguments crying "that's gender discrimination" fall on deaf ears.

    Let's say a gay marriage ban is gender discrimination: So what?
    If you have "deaf ears" what is the point in even having discourse about the subject at hand?

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    Re: Civil Unions

    It isn't "gender" discrimination, Winston. Jerry's right on that because both genders are treated equally as far as the discriminatory action goes, but it is still discrimination.

    It is discrimination based on sexual-orientation.

    And that is just as "wrong" as gender discrimination is.
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    Re: Civil Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    If you have "deaf ears" what is the point in even having discourse about the subject at hand?
    My point exactly.

    We anti-GM folks are not listening to discrimination arguments. Why you choose to keep making them when no one on this side cares, I don't know.

    Maybe you just do it for personal entertainment? I can respect that.

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    Re: Civil Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    It is discrimination based on sexual-orientation.
    A gay can marry a gay, a gay can marry a hetero, a hetero can marry a hetero.

    No discrimination there either.

    Now quick, someone make this argument:
    "A man can not marry a man, a man can marry a woman, a woman can not marry a woman: DISCRIMINATION".

    Come on, you know you want to
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    Re: Civil Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    YES!

    And Prop8 did not change this.

    Gays in CA can currently today choose someone of the SAME GENDER and have free, complete and total access to each and every single civil right, without any exception at all whatsoever, that their hetero counterparts have.

    Next-of Kin, hospital visitation, insurance, you name it. Gays have it all right now.

    Gays will gain nothing with the abolishment of "marriage". Nothing. They already have the complete collection of civil rights.

    So, why do they want to abolish my marriage? How does my marriage affect them in any way?
    How is this your marriage? What gives you ownership over it?
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    Re: Civil Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Now quick, someone make this argument:
    "A man can not marry a man, a man can marry a woman, a woman can not marry a woman: DISCRIMINATION".

    Come on, you know you want to
    I was going to say "Gay couples can't get married to each other the way hetero couples can and thus it discriminates on which types of couples can get married for arbitrary reasons."

    The argument about blood-related couples being discriminated against is not the same because the basis for that discrimination is not an arbitrary one.

    In other words, the state has a valid reason to prevent couplings likely to produce three-headed babies.
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    Re: Civil Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    How is this your marriage? What gives you ownership over it?
    California is the issueing authority of my marriage licinse.

    If California does away with marriage, they are doing away with my marriage.

    If California changes marriage to 'civil union', they are changing my 'marriage' to 'civil unuion'.

    This dyrectly affects me personaly.

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