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    Re: Should Obama debate Rush?

    Hairy, thank you for the interaction. But we aren't getting anywhere. We simply don't see eye to eye on this, and that's okay. I'll leave you to it.

    Good night.

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    Re: Should Obama debate Rush?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Hairy, thank you for the interaction. But we aren't getting anywhere. We simply don't see eye to eye on this, and that's okay. I'll leave you to it.

    Good night.

    That means you lose! j/k

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    Re: Should Obama debate Rush?

    Still waiting for an example of a sitting president accepting a debate with a private citizen. If it isn't done, then why suggest it should be done?

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    Re: Should Obama debate Rush?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Whether or not Rush is a fat tub of crap is irrelevant.

    Obama runs his mouth but wont defend his actions.

    He needs to put up or shut up. He has a nearly captive audience and there is no rebuttal to which Obama has to defend against.

    His policies are unsupported by facts and he will loose any debate with a competent individual.

    Some American's don't want him to be doing what he is doing. He needs to explain himself.

    Hell most anyone here could debate and win against him.

    This has always been the case with presidents. Bush took us into a war that many Americans didn't want. He didn't debate anyone about it. At least President Obama is talking to the public and keeping us informed. Obama has earned his position as president through a LONG process. He should not debate the likes of Limbaugh anymore that Bush should have debated Michael Moore. He shouldn't engage in this if for no other reason than he should be using his time better.
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    Re: Should Obama debate Rush?

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Still waiting for an example of a sitting president accepting a debate with a private citizen. If it isn't done, then why suggest it should be done?



    perhaps no one cares about your strawman, just sayin.


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    Re: Should Obama debate Rush?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    The thing i do not like about that article is that Rush is about 2 years too late in his plea for tax relief. Here is my problem with those who are ascribing to tax holidays: Its far too late, there are already trillions of dollars of liabilities to the taxpayer, of which future deficit financing is reactive to. Spending is not going to be cut, therefore taxation is the only way to ensure future investment from foreign and domestic investors.

    As much as i would like spending to be halted, that ship has sunk. I believe the reason our stimulus package is lacking is due to financial restraint, where the Dems are pushing there desired spending now, and HOPEFULLY they will enact super infrastructure stimulus, heavily laden in educational projects.

    Once fears are averted can interest rates and yields be allowed to rise. Then the private investor will begin to emerge once again.

    Which is a shame, because a great deal of crowding out will occur. A clear cut solution to this cluster**** does not exist.
    Keynesian economists believe government spending on "shovel-ready" infrastructure projects -- schools, roads, bridges -- is the best way to stimulate our staggering economy. Supply-side economists make an equally persuasive case that tax cuts are the surest and quickest way to create permanent jobs and cause an economy to rebound. That happened under JFK, Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush. We know that when tax rates are cut in a recession, it brings an economy back.

    Recent polling indicates that the American people are in favor of both approaches.

    Rush Limbaugh: My Bipartisan Stimulus - WSJ.com
    Do you believe America really favors both ideas?

    Do you favor both?

    OBL 11/24/02

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    Re: Should Obama debate Rush?

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    Do you believe America really favors both ideas?

    Do you favor both?
    We are massivily overdue for an infrastructure overhaul. With the stock level of Federal debt, combined with the massive appropriations towards bailouts, there is really no way to move forward without increasing revenue.

    We just cannot lower taxes and hope everything goes away in time. Tax incentives need to be quasi-permanent to have any effect, unless combined with the type of spending we cannot afford. The banking system is insolvent, and once the current liquidity blanket is removed, there are going to be quite a few naked banks, ala Citi and BoA. This is not just a local issue, this phenomena shall proceed to creep throughout the world. Europe, US and Japan are the current zombie banking systems.

    A great deal of more governmental/global coordination is still in the works.

    Personally, i say let em all fall. But that is just not realistic, so the best case scenario is to hope for higher prices (inflation to Keynesians). At this point, massive spending is needed in public/private bid co-ops. I expect another stimulus by the end of the year.
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    Re: Should Obama debate Rush?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    perhaps no one cares about your strawman, just sayin.

    It's a question, not a strawman. Not surprised you don't know the difference.

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    Re: Should Obama debate Rush?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    We are massivily overdue for an infrastructure overhaul. With the stock level of Federal debt, combined with the massive appropriations towards bailouts, there is really no way to move forward without increasing revenue.

    We just cannot lower taxes and hope everything goes away in time. Tax incentives need to be quasi-permanent to have any effect, unless combined with the type of spending we cannot afford. The banking system is insolvent, and once the current liquidity blanket is removed, there are going to be quite a few naked banks, ala Citi and BoA. This is not just a local issue, this phenomena shall proceed to creep throughout the world. Europe, US and Japan are the current zombie banking systems.

    A great deal of more governmental/global coordination is still in the works.

    Personally, i say let em all fall. But that is just not realistic, so the best case scenario is to hope for higher prices (inflation to Keynesians). At this point, massive spending is needed in public/private bid co-ops. I expect another stimulus by the end of the year.
    Yesterday the DJ dropped 250 points. How many more days like this can America withstand?

    Wouldn't cutting capital gains taxes immediately effect Wall Street?

    OBL 11/24/02

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    Re: Should Obama debate Rush?

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    It's a question, not a strawman. Not surprised you don't know the difference.


    Still waiting for an example of a sitting president accepting a debate with a private citizen.


    This is a question?


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