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    Re: Should The GOP Have A Moderate Wing?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    No, this isn't the case at all. Coulter is a joke and despite what the white house is telling you right now, Rush doesn't lead the party.
    Anyone who thinks Ann Coulter is a joke will be amused by the new a--hole she tears Keith Olbermann here.

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    Fortunately, we have Keith Olbermann to point out that Rush Limbaugh did not accurately quote the preamble to the Constitution in his CPAC speech last weekend. I'm not sure what scam Olbermann imagined Rush was trying to put over on the American people by saying conservatives believed in the "preamble to the Constitution" and then quoting words from the Declaration of Independence -- but Olbermann put an end to that cruel deception!
    You won't get the full effect of the skewering until the last sentence of the column.

    Delicious!

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    Re: Should The GOP Have A Moderate Wing?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    No, but there are polarizing atheist figures who have made every effort to command the courts. And it's worked...cities have been known to tell little old lady's they can't have Christmas decorations on their doors for fear of law suits.
    Can you show such an example?

    It's not about how many millions listen to Olbermann or Rush. Rush does not lead the Republican party. Pelosi is an extremely polarizing figure and she is the speaker of the house right now.
    Pelosi isn't polarizing because of what she says. She's polarizing because she's a liberal. If Pelosi came out a week from now and said 'If you don't support us you're anti-American' or something akin to that. You'd have a point.

    Yeah and I am well aware of who Soros and Ayers are...
    Who are they? Honestly speaking I had no clue who Ayers was until Obama's campaign and even then his moments of true polarization came 30 YEARS ago. I don't even think most on the left did until it came out. And George Soros? This is the same guy who was donating millions of dollars to anti-socialist groups in Eastern Europe. Your comparisons fail.

    No, this isn't the case at all. Coulter is a joke and despite what the white house is telling you right now, Rush doesn't lead the party.
    Coulter is a joke? According to whom? The New York times best seller list? Seems like a pretty convincing joke to me.
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    Re: Should The GOP Have A Moderate Wing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    I think his comment was more to the point of the duopoly of the Democratic and Republican parties. Third parties as they are called don't stand a prayers chance in hell of getting elected.

    But there is a reason for that. People choose to be Democrat, Republican, Green, Socialist, etc. So I certainly see your point Hatuey. And sort of see his too.

    It's political survival of the fittest. Start your own party, and every four years you'll be tied to the tree and hit in the head with a shovel.

    The reason many people pick either Republican or Democrat is the lesser of 2 evils syndrome. For virtually all higher political offices it is pointless to support an other party candidate, the duopoly reigns supreme, and it fosters a sense of apathy in many.

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    Re: Should The GOP Have A Moderate Wing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Coulter is a joke? According to whom? The New York times best seller list? Seems like a pretty convincing joke to me.
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    Re: Should The GOP Have A Moderate Wing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Can you show such an example?
    Don't be obtuse. You were part of the thread around Christmastime this year.

    Pelosi isn't polarizing because of what she says. She's polarizing because she's a liberal. If Pelosi came out a week from now and said 'If you don't support us you're anti-American' or something akin to that. You'd have a point.
    Then you didn't follow the lead up to the vote on the census bill AT ALL.

    Who are they? Honestly speaking I had no clue who Ayers was until Obama's campaign and even then his moments of true polarization came 30 YEARS ago. I don't even think most on the left did until it came out. And George Soros? This is the same guy who was donating millions of dollars to anti-socialist groups in Eastern Europe. Your comparisons fail.
    No, they are apt comparisons to yours. I'm sorry you can't seem to grasp that there are polarizing figures on both sides, but I didn't expect much better given your past posts.

    Coulter is a joke? According to whom? The New York times best seller list? Seems like a pretty convincing joke to me.
    Dan Brown was on the best seller list too but he is no authority on the Catholic Church either.

    Coulter is an entertainer. Nothing more.

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    Re: Should The GOP Have A Moderate Wing?

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    The reason many people pick either Republican or Democrat is the lesser of 2 evils syndrome. For virtually all higher political offices it is pointless to support an other party candidate, the duopoly reigns supreme, and it fosters a sense of apathy in many.
    Quoted for truth.
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    Re: Should The GOP Have A Moderate Wing?

    As a Democrat I wish Pelosi would learn to shut the **** some of the time. Seriously. Get her a mouthpiece.
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    Re: Should The GOP Have A Moderate Wing?

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    It's important that our democratic system have two parties who respect each other enough to let the other govern. If Republicans cannot create a moderate wing, they will cease to exist.
    Spoken like a true lib.

    We have one and it's not just a wing of the party but the whole damn fuselage too.

    I'd prefer all conservatives.
    If we need D-Lites, we'll take them.
    We'll always have them unfortunately.

    Conservatives have the best chance at winning elections.

    D-Lites? Look at the north east.
    Libs prefer the real deal when given a choice between Libs and imitation Libs.
    Even criminal Libs trounce D-Lites from the Republican party.

    In the North East we need conservatives to go out there and rip the democrats. Take them on. Not sound like them...


    As a Democrat I wish Pelosi would learn to shut the **** some of the time. Seriously. Get her a mouthpiece.
    I love Pelosi.

    But to rid yourself of the morons and their statements you need to go far deeper into the roster than that.
    Obama, Biden, ObamaRhama, Holder, The Clintons, Turbin, sKerry, Schumer, Reid, Kennedy... for starters.

    They all spew verbal diarrhea.H
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    Re: Should The GOP Have A Moderate Wing?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I would love to see a more moderate wing of our party. I would actually love for both parties to marginalize their extreme wings and remove them from the equation altogether.
    You're speaking my language.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: Should The GOP Have A Moderate Wing?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I see a completely different side of this. I see rightwingers becoming more extreme because leftwingers seem to constantly be on the attack and attempting to take away the very beliefs of those on the right. I think a lot of extreme right wingers don't really care much about taxes as much as they do not like having, for example, their religion and the freedom to practice it infringed upon.

    Take for instance the school prayer issue. I don't think schools should be organizing prayer. Most moderate republicans probably don't mind the school not organizing prayer either. However, when rabid leftist, one agenda loudmouths like Cephus come along and attempt to even stop individual students from having expressions of their religion on their free time, quite a few moderates go straight to extreme rapidly. It's a natural reaction to force being applied to them.

    That's just one issue. There are at least half a dozen of these hot button issues and with each one, you have a whole different demographic within the parties that become extreme.
    I agree with you completely, but I'll go further to say that this phenomenon occurs on both sides. For example, a lot of moderated lefties couldn't care less if someone wants to learn about religion, as an elective, in school, but when they hear idiotic fundies shouting that if you don't want prayer in school, your anti-American, it makes these lefties go further left. This happens in every conflict, religion vs. atheism, Israel vs. Palestine, anything. The extremists of each side are the problem and their idiocy and rabid nonsense pushes moderates to defend themselves, and often needing to go to their own extremes to do it.

    The best way to go after these extremists is from within. Moderate conservatives and moderate liberals (or moderate whatever) need to attack the extremists on their own side. Best way to isolate and make them irrelevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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